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08-31-2015, 05:46 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: fatigued
Posts: 1,397
For those thinking of coming here:
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
08-31-2015, 06:13 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 216
Originally Posted by Bosco
So...maybe, possibly, if the price is right (work for free?), we could potentially get 30 shiny new jets within just five short years?
When do the "at lest 20" Q400's get parked?
I don't see how this deal could in any way be a bad deal for the QX pilot group.
No thanks.
When do the "at lest 20" Q400's get parked?
I don't see how this deal could in any way be a bad deal for the QX pilot group.
No thanks.
Assuming all the leased airplanes are on 15 year terms, 12 airplanes would go away by the end of 2015 and two by the end of 2016, after which point I think the remaining airframes are owned by Air Group, so they could be parked whenever.
08-31-2015, 07:24 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Canabus
Posts: 157
Originally Posted by trip
What a beat down and depressing industry, I'm shocked people still show up for interviews.
09-01-2015, 08:06 AM
#25
Sitting and scratching...
Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: Upright
Posts: 371
Originally Posted by lowflying
Let's see how many FOs vote with their feet.
Theyre probably playing on the super senior ex-
CRJ whiners (pleas note, not all of them fit into this category) that will do anything to get back into a jet.
With the current upward trend in the industry, there is absolutely ZERO room for any pilot group to give concessions. A company that needs concessions in this market is one that is being steered by incompetence and wanting labor to make up for their ineptitude.
09-01-2015, 08:41 AM
#26
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by snackysmores
For those thinking of coming here:
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
1. Do not be fooled by our pay rates. $30/hour but it's a 5 week bid. You're only going to get 69 hours a month instead of 80 like EVERY OTHER AIRLINE IN EXISTENCE.
2. Your new uniforms will cost you $725.
3. No jets, no signing bonuses, no flow.
4. The q400 is a god awful airplane, and you're gonna be doing 5-6 legs a day that are only 45 minutes long. You will sit longer than you fly. ****ty overnights.
5. We're losing 15 planes (30%) of our fleet at the end of next year and those leases will not be renewed. You WILL get furloughed.
6. We're not the only regional who operates in the PNW.
Seriously, do not come here.
Why people keep coming here is beyond me...
09-01-2015, 09:23 AM
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: fatigued
Posts: 1,397
Originally Posted by vrefcoffee
Spot on!
Why people keep coming here is beyond me...
Why people keep coming here is beyond me...
If you want to live in the PNW...Compass has a SEA base. Skywest has a PDX and SEA base. Do not come here, and if you're in ground school I highly suggest you bail.
09-02-2015, 12:51 PM
#28
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: B767 FO
Posts: 11
Republic Pares Drop After Pilot Union Says Willing to Talk - Bloomberg Business
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
09-02-2015, 04:36 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: fatigued
Posts: 1,397
Originally Posted by RboT
Republic Pares Drop After Pilot Union Says Willing to Talk - Bloomberg Business
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
from the article,
“The only option for the airline may be renegotiating its contracts with its airline partners, and the only way to do that may be through the courts,”
seems to me AAG is trying to get a lock on potential cost increases (e.g. wages) before the financial environment changes in the pilots' favor.
09-02-2015, 07:02 PM
#30
Permanent Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 660
Originally Posted by snackysmores
They won't go after wages, but rather work rules and benefits. I believe our pilot group is strong and will vote NO to any concessions whatsoever. Brad Tilden wants to lock in a concessionary contract now so they won't have to pay Skywest more money once their agreements become amendable as their costs have surely risen.
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