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Old 10-10-2015, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
$7000 dollars and 5 weeks of training.

And to be a pilot?

ALPA National is a joke.

Truck drivers make tens of thousands more than regional pilots.

Time to recall the ALPA president Tim Canoll. He has his, pull up the ladder.
Hardly. I made a couple of grand more my year driving over the road, than I did my first year at the regionals. But my QOL of life was so much worse. There are driving jobs out there that can pay well, but you are NOT getting them right out of truck driving school.
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:33 PM
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You have to take the flying back Jerry, otherwise the market will destroy pay rates, as we have seen. The shortage has been repairing some of the damage, for now.
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Sorry for the spelling, typed on my phone.

I am not a regional pilot, I am a 30 year captain at Delta.

A regional first officer needs to start at $100,000 annually given the cost of training and education.

Fuel costs what fuel costs and pilots cost what pilots cost. Businesses still run. Goods have to be trucked all over the country. Just because a truck driver makes $73,000, companies don't just shut down. They pay the salaries.

Our regional pilots are underpaid because our union leader is in bed with management. He is fine with these low wages.

If I owned a sock company and decided to increase my revenue by outsourcing my sock manufacturing to China, how would it sound if I then complained about the low wages sock makers in China make? Probably a little disingenuous...

So as a 30 year Delta CA, how much scope has been sold off during your time to the regional industry, outsourced in order to bring higher hourly rates to the Delta contract?

You and your peers created the Regional airline market, and its wages, you cant come back and say "they should make 100k" after the fact.
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Old 10-10-2015, 03:49 PM
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I don't think Walmart or UPS has a shortage of truck drivers with what they pay and benefits offered. Places like Swift have a hard time keeping drivers... Might be the pay and 28 hours of home time every 20 days. Sounds no different then the airline industry.
This.

My dad was a lifetime trucker. I tried my hand at it between jobs 10 years ago.

If anyone here thinks a first year driver is going to knock down $73k, I got a bridge for sale....

****holes like SWIFT you pull one load and sit for three days before you get your next one... $400/wk if you're lucky...
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post

Time to recall the ALPA president Tim Canoll. He has his, pull up the ladder.
Let me get this straight you would rather recall Tim Canoll from ALPA then just dump ALPA? I don't understand you people, why would you want to stay with an organization that could care less about you? Just keep giving them your dues and shut up. Regional pilots are only interested in complaining but when it comes time to actually doing something meaningful they can't be found. Complain complain complain. Does it make you feel good?
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:17 PM
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Let me get this straight you would rather recall Tim Canoll from ALPA then just dump ALPA? I don't understand you people, why would you want to stay with an organization that could care less about you? Just keep giving them your dues and shut up. Regional pilots are only interested in complaining but when it comes time to actually doing something meaningful they can't be found. Complain complain complain. Does it make you feel good?
Let me guess, we should form a regional airline association? Aside from the large regionals like ExpressJet and Envoy, most properties are heavily subsidized by ALPA national. Who is going to fund the unions?
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Old 10-10-2015, 07:08 PM
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No one at the regionals is going to do a thing about alpa! Everyone thinks they're going to get to a major like yesterday. No one is going to stick their neck out to start a drive for a union that actually represents the interests of regional pilots because " we'll all be at the majors soon".

Tim cannoll knows this, alpa knows this, major and regional airline managements know this. Now keep paying your dues and complaining because that's what regional pilots do!
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:45 AM
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I am ready to bring the teamsters to Mesa, and **** can ALPA and our MEC. Every time I mention this, everyone turns chicken...
I prefer the Teamsters approach of baseball bats to the knee caps.
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:55 AM
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I am ready to bring the teamsters to Mesa, and **** can ALPA and our MEC. Every time I mention this, everyone turns chicken...
I prefer the Teamsters approach of baseball bats to the knee caps.
You mean the 7 years of bats to knee caps when Republic was negotiating? Or how about the success they are having at GoJet. They are the lowest paid pilots at Trans States Holdings and going on year 3 of negotiations.
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC View Post
I am ready to bring the teamsters to Mesa, and **** can ALPA and our MEC. Every time I mention this, everyone turns chicken...
I prefer the Teamsters approach of baseball bats to the knee caps.
This made me chuckle. Teamsters are more about servicing airline management. That and filing frivolous lawsuits.
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