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02-14-2016, 05:36 AM
#1111
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
Originally Posted by adspilot
We just lost 50 pilots this month to attrition. (40-CA/10-FO)
When are we going to have another vacancy bid?
When are we going to have another vacancy bid?
02-14-2016, 08:22 AM
#1113
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Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by N927EV
Sometime in February is what I heard. No idea how big or small it'll be, but with the way everything's been going, I'd be prepared to be underwhelmed.
02-14-2016, 08:47 AM
#1114
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
Originally Posted by eaglefly
Well, the promise that still exists is 205 upgrades this year (250 according to some), so if that's true, there MUST be a minimum of 19 upgrades each and every month (or an average of that) for the remainder of the year. Since some here insist AAG is living up to its agreements, unlike the old AMR of the past and according to ALPA, Envoy management is "ready" to do their part, I don't see what could go wrong.
That said, to upgrade 250 for the year would mean a minimum of 22 per month IF you count February. If the bid isn't issued until March, then you need 25 per month for 10 straight months. Odds of that happening? Zero.
But hey. Some goodies from the past....
2.5/6.
They do what they say they are going to do.
The 2.5/6 is all based on math and projections.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It's contractual, they have to flow the min # per month.
I said it was BS at the time and i'm being proved correct.
02-14-2016, 08:50 AM
#1115
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
Originally Posted by ag386
I'm just elated to be on the way out the door. I've posted the Allegiant meet and greet for tomorrow in CVG. Perhaps some will take advantage.
That said, to upgrade 250 for the year would mean a minimum of 22 per month IF you count February. If the bid isn't issued until March, then you need 25 per month for 10 straight months. Odds of that happening? Zero.
But hey. Some goodies from the past....
2.5/6.
They do what they say they are going to do.
The 2.5/6 is all based on math and projections.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It's contractual, they have to flow the min # per month.
I said it was BS at the time and i'm being proved correct.
That said, to upgrade 250 for the year would mean a minimum of 22 per month IF you count February. If the bid isn't issued until March, then you need 25 per month for 10 straight months. Odds of that happening? Zero.
But hey. Some goodies from the past....
2.5/6.
They do what they say they are going to do.
The 2.5/6 is all based on math and projections.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It's contractual, they have to flow the min # per month.
I said it was BS at the time and i'm being proved correct.
And if you're actually going to allegiant or working there, good luck. They have their own sets of challenges.
02-14-2016, 08:56 AM
#1116
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by ag386
I'm just elated to be on the way out the door. I've posted the Allegiant meet and greet for tomorrow in CVG. Perhaps some will take advantage.
That said, to upgrade 250 for the year would mean a minimum of 22 per month IF you count February. If the bid isn't issued until March, then you need 25 per month for 10 straight months. Odds of that happening? Zero.
But hey. Some goodies from the past....
2.5/6.
They do what they say they are going to do.
The 2.5/6 is all based on math and projections.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It's contractual, they have to flow the min # per month.
I said it was BS at the time and i'm being proved correct.
That said, to upgrade 250 for the year would mean a minimum of 22 per month IF you count February. If the bid isn't issued until March, then you need 25 per month for 10 straight months. Odds of that happening? Zero.
But hey. Some goodies from the past....
2.5/6.
They do what they say they are going to do.
The 2.5/6 is all based on math and projections.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It's contractual, they have to flow the min # per month.
I said it was BS at the time and i'm being proved correct.
It WILL be interesting to see how attrition and attraction are impacted by the sobering occurances of the present.
02-14-2016, 09:02 AM
#1117
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
To be blunt, nobody's cheerleading ENY's actions right now, so all the people claiming so can just sit down.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
02-14-2016, 10:06 AM
#1118
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 894
Originally Posted by N927EV
And if you're actually going to allegiant or working there, good luck. They have their own sets of challenges.
Have fun with that!!
They email me constantly to try and set up an interview from an old app I had in years ago when I applied everywhere. No thanks..
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02-14-2016, 10:13 AM
#1119
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 674
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
To be blunt, nobody's cheerleading ENY's actions right now, so all the people claiming so can just sit down.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
02-14-2016, 11:08 AM
#1120
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
To be blunt, nobody's cheerleading ENY's actions right now, so all the people claiming so can just sit down.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
Last year everything pointed to them doing exactly what they said they were going to do. They were spot on for the flow and announced major upgrades, more flying, and a rapid flow thanks to the 175's arrival.
This year they've done a 180. Stalled the flow. An inadequate upgrade schedule along with the bull**** (oh, I wish there wasn't a swear filter here) excuse that we need zero time lines, 65 hour averages and 35% reserve because we don't have the staffing to flow. F *** that BS.
I was cautiously optimistic last year with a wait-and-see attitude. This year they can suck it.
Why do pilots never seem to be attentive students of past history and so easily fleeced ?
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