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11-25-2015, 07:54 AM

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CBreezy

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Originally Posted by The Juice

Her actions put your entire group's jumpseating at risk with other airlines. She should be called out.

So when she denies a Legacy CA for a ride, do you think that CA will care about a forum apology when he misses his last ride home? Do you think this will stay fresh in their head when a TSA pilot tries to jumpseat on their plane? You bet it will

Police your own if need be. CA controls their jumpseat and just as she can control who rides in hers, every other captain can and will control who rides in theirs as well

So, you say police our own. What's your solution if she refuses to pull her head out? Blanket party?

11-25-2015, 09:21 AM

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Poser765

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Originally Posted by yimke

I'm not going to jump to conclusions and I am not affliated with either TSA or airline X. However, the captain is in the right. It is the PIC's authority to allow a jumpseater, NOT the gate agent, jumpseat committee, or management. Perhaps there was some other motives for the captain's decision. The JS could have been out of compliance, low on oxygen, broken JS, etc. Regardless, it is the captain's jumpseat and you are a guest, treat it like that! It is possible the captain did not choose the right words to convey the message.

Sure the captain IS the final word on the jumpseat, but denying jumpseaters because it's "personal policy" is low class and a crappy thing to do whether you have the authority to do it or not.

Also, really, if the O2 is low, or the jumpseat is inop, it takes a real special kind of socially screwed up and awkward person to not be to convey that properly. In the highly complex realms of interpersonal communication it's not hard to say "I'm sorry, we are low on oxygen, we can't take a jumpseater." If they can't even do that then I seriously doubt their ability to effectively communicate sufficiently to foster a positive CRM environment.

11-25-2015, 09:51 AM

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Coneydog

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Originally Posted by Poser765

You just hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately said captain is 'socially screwed up and awkward'...and fosters an extremely poor CRM envirnnment. Anyone who has flown with this captain can attest to that. I'm kinda surprised she hasn't been fired.

11-25-2015, 09:54 AM

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Metering

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Originally Posted by Coneydog

I always felt that anytime you provide input that would correct a situation or even ask a question to understand the captains thinking, the captain took it as a challenge to their authority and would get defensive and "uppity". Kind of like a "you arent better than me!" sort of attitude.

11-25-2015, 12:15 PM

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ThreeStripe

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

So, you say police our own. What's your solution if she refuses to pull her head out? Blanket party?

Everybody needs to write her up until the chief does something. A lot of your guys are going to miss rides home otherwise. With planes going out full all the time, the jumpseat is a lifeboat for commuters. If she is as bad as you guys say, your company would be better off without her anyway.