Skywest vs. envoy
11-29-2015, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
While SkyWest (to me) would be the more attractive of the two given you already live on the West Coast, I would honestly look elsewhere. I think with all the retirements in the next 5 years at mainline, you will want to go somewhere and upgrade as soon as possible to make yourself as attractive as possible to get one of those jobs. You don't want to be 8 to 10 years out catching the backside of the mainline hiring wave. I have friends who have been there for 4-5 years and haven't upgraded. Same at Envoy. Now I know that current upgrade times aren't always a good indicator of what upgrade time will be like in a year or two, but that's still a whole lot of people above you who will upgrade before you do. And I'm not saying that an AAG wholly owned is a bad choice right now (far from it actually). You will basically eliminate American from your list of potential airlines you want to work for by not going to an AAG wholly-owned. But choose carefully and don't sip the kool-aid from anyone. There are positives and negative to each of the wholly-owneds (and all airlines in general for that matter). Good luck in your choice.
And if not envoy or SW, where else?
11-29-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slough
Go someplace that has flow and a quick upgrade.
Why limit yourself to those two?
Why limit yourself to those two?
Republic wants to interview after the new year(no date set) and compass wants me to be closer to 1500 before I come in
11-29-2015, 12:32 PM
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I'd say Skywest is a no brainer. The best qol is to have a line and live in base. Skywest is hiring 100 people a month for the foreseeable future. To me that says an extremely quick line and a fast upgrade. But I would definitely check out more regionals before you choose. Good luck!
11-29-2015, 12:37 PM
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I have worked for both. Out of LAX to... Go figure. I would go to SkyWest.. They are about to expand big time on the west coast.. (Delta E175's and UA/AS 175's..) Eagle was a good company not knocking them. But way to much change ahead for them..
11-29-2015, 02:50 PM
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Other things to consider:
Even though new hires aren't sitting reserve for very long, at some point you will upgrade and you will sit for years on reserve as a Captain. SkyWest reserve is a unique kind of hell that has no real description. On reserve at SkyWest, you will be treated on a sub human scale. Of all the people that I've run into that left SkyWest for a total different career left because of the way they were treated by SkyWest on reserve. If you come here consider yourself warned.
Training failures, have been mounting and are climbing higher, as a percetage. There has been a total turn over of training department management and there is little room for issues. Many new ground and sim instructors that have zilch experience. Lots of new LCA's again with little experience. Until you have finished your IOE your CP cannot help you, you are at the mercy of some new training department micro manager that is out to make a name for themselves.
If I was in your position, flow would have a lot of weight in my decision.
The upgrade at SkyWest is at least 3 years and things could change over night and come to a grinding halt.
There is no way I could bunk up with another person for 2 months, SkyWest only offers rooms with 2 guys in them, nice way to start your "first class career"!
I'm senior SkyWest, I would go Compass, Envoy, Republic in that order.
Even though new hires aren't sitting reserve for very long, at some point you will upgrade and you will sit for years on reserve as a Captain. SkyWest reserve is a unique kind of hell that has no real description. On reserve at SkyWest, you will be treated on a sub human scale. Of all the people that I've run into that left SkyWest for a total different career left because of the way they were treated by SkyWest on reserve. If you come here consider yourself warned.
Training failures, have been mounting and are climbing higher, as a percetage. There has been a total turn over of training department management and there is little room for issues. Many new ground and sim instructors that have zilch experience. Lots of new LCA's again with little experience. Until you have finished your IOE your CP cannot help you, you are at the mercy of some new training department micro manager that is out to make a name for themselves.
If I was in your position, flow would have a lot of weight in my decision.
The upgrade at SkyWest is at least 3 years and things could change over night and come to a grinding halt.
There is no way I could bunk up with another person for 2 months, SkyWest only offers rooms with 2 guys in them, nice way to start your "first class career"!
I'm senior SkyWest, I would go Compass, Envoy, Republic in that order.
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