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Old 04-09-2016, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tikiman View Post
Hmm.

Version 4 published with alpa 117 app and has a Dec 2015.

Same q98. Same result.

Still illegal...

Even with Anderson, It is all about when extended.

117 defines the FDP and its legal application not the contract.

Apply Anderson...very clear "when a FDP has ended 117.25(e) Requires a flight crew member be provided with a 10 hour minimum...."

This is why the alpa guidance is unchanged to version 4.

Over and out.
Look at version 4, Q-13 A-13 and Q-17 A-17. APLA has applied the Anderson interpretation. Your FDP does not end till you time out or the company release you. So you call to check out and the company says go fly xxxx you have to do it via far 117.
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:20 PM
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Just blocking in does not mean that your FDP has ended.
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Old 04-09-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 272922 View Post
You're right, it was question 98 that I should've been referring to. But even then, it states that one can be reassigned prior to the end of the FDP, and the contract defines end of the FDP as 15 minutes after block. If you want to play hard ball with scheduling don't call them until 15 minutes after block.

But at the same time remember that that document is an ALPA interpretation of 117 and it's later FAA interpretations. If you want to keep playing this game that support your position with actual regulation and FAA interpretations instead. The Anderson letter is real interesting reading.

It reads 15 min after block in or when released by scheduling. Which ever is later.


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Old 04-09-2016, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IceManCRJ View Post
It reads 15 min after block in or when released by scheduling. Which ever is later.


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Old 04-10-2016, 12:43 AM
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Got a junior man call from scheduling today, 3rd time this month already.
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Old 04-10-2016, 05:41 AM
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Got a junior man call from scheduling today, 3rd time this month already.

Call the junior man number


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Old 04-10-2016, 08:22 AM
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Seniority list is out

From 1183 down to 1175. With 14 new hires on the list that makes for a total of 22 resignations in the last month. Almost up to 1 a day!

Great pep talk Dougie!
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:55 AM
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Seniority list is out

From 1183 down to 1175. With 14 new hires on the list that makes for a total of 22 resignations in the last month. Almost up to 1 a day!

Great pep talk Dougie!
I'm in the top 400 and I moved up 16 spots from last month, so I'm assuming lots of the attrition was captains.
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Old 04-10-2016, 10:20 AM
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Maybe they finally removed some of the preferential interview/flow people from 6+ months ago.
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