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Old 02-07-2016, 09:49 AM
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Right. Skw screws asa/ejt, takes there money have them show a loss and skw in house union is paid for by management. Yes skw is a happy place.
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Flightsoffusion View Post
Appreciate the responses. Just recieved an email to move forward with the hiring process. Was offered a class with SKW but didn't want to pay $2000 for my own room. I think I may snore..
Wow. I'd think twice about that move unless you live at a republic only base. Skw is better hands down.
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:11 PM
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Wow. I'd think twice about that move unless you live at a republic only base. Skw is better hands down.
Anybody want to provide specifics on why this is the case?

I'm new to the regional game in the US and understand that Republic has had its issues in the past, but when you look at the comparisons on AeroCrew etc. Republic generally has better contractual terms.

I'm surprised that some airlines only provide double occupancy, this is generally against the labor code in Canada so I'm not used to seeing this. Not that I think someone should base their career decision on this - just really surprised me!
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:41 PM
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There was mention that indoc, systems, sim etc. aren't completed in one shot. Could someone give a typical situation as to how the training will progress? i.e. length of indoc, break before starting systems/sim, length of systems/ sim training/IOE. I understand that it may be changing all the time. Curious to hear what you guys in the trenches are experience. Thanks!
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO View Post
Wow. I'd think twice about that move unless you live at a republic only base. Skw is better hands down.
Posts like this are irritating. I highly doubt this poster as well as many others who make similar statements have worked at Republic POST contract AND Skywest. Republic should not have the stigma it previously had. The working conditions have greatly improved due to the new contract. It is inaccurate to compare Republic under the previous contract and working conditions, which many posters continuously do.
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AvPilot View Post
Posts like this are irritating. I highly doubt this poster as well as many others who make similar statements have worked at Republic POST contract AND Skywest. Republic should not have the stigma it previously had. The working conditions have greatly improved due to the new contract. It is inaccurate to compare Republic under the previous contract and working conditions, which many posters continuously do.
Such posts are perpetuated by the same ignoramuses who say Endeavor is nothing more than Pinnacle-Colgan-Mesaba in a different color dress, or that Silver is just Gulfstream in disguise. The airline industry is very fluid. I've worked in it since the 80's. I don't remember a time when it was not turbulent. The players come and go. AAG was once the darling of the industry. United was a gem. Just look at both of them now struggling to stay alive. The industry laughed at PeoplExpress. Meanwhile, all the airlines are now making billions on a similar business model.

My point is, when an airline has a significant management change, signs a new labor contract, or restructures its finances, it is not necessarily the "same" airline.
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tvlawyer View Post
My point is, when an airline has a significant management change, signs a new labor contract, or restructures its finances, it is not necessarily the "same" airline.
As long as the prior management is in place, the corporate culture will not change and thus the stigma will not change. Management styles do not change, management personnel need to change.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tvlawyer View Post
AAG was once the darling of the industry. United was a gem. Just look at both of them now struggling to stay alive. The industry laughed at PeoplExpress. Meanwhile, all the airlines are now making billions on a similar business model.
I'm sorry but I'm confused here... AAG and UAL are now struggling to stay alive? Elaborate on that point if you could please.
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Old 02-08-2016, 10:42 AM
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Unless you live on the east coast and have no desire to ever go west of the Mississippi, then avoid RAH.

Sure first yr pay is higher but it plateau's. They made first yr so high to get butts in the door. Rigs match SKW and don't exceed. Outstation basing will make your life miserable unless you live there.

RAH is the company where after my base closed told me to drive 4 hrs in a blizzard across the state in order to commute to ORD when all my flights cancelled. Then when I refused and commuter clause'd my trip told me I should sell my house and move my family to base. When I refused that they told me I should rent and not own a house.

If I had to do it all over with the regionals, I'd go with SKW. Better variety in trips, similar CBA, better management, better bases. In 5 yrs it won't matter where you're at since the regionals will be a shell of their former selves and most everyone on this board will be at a major.
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Old 02-08-2016, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Piloteh View Post
Anybody want to provide specifics on why this is the case?

I'm new to the regional game in the US and understand that Republic has had its issues in the past, but when you look at the comparisons on AeroCrew etc. Republic generally has better contractual terms.

I'm surprised that some airlines only provide double occupancy, this is generally against the labor code in Canada so I'm not used to seeing this. Not that I think someone should base their career decision on this - just really surprised me!
That's easy, because SKW has plenty of growth left. ASA and XJT are still very large operations ripe for the picking. RAH is as large as it will ever be for at least the next 50% of your aviation career.
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