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09-24-2016, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
No one has flow other than the wholly owned AA carriers. The CPP programs with UA are interviews only. I believe the company is working on trying to get some kind of CPP but I haven't heard much lately about it.
09-24-2016, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Future Cpt Kirk
They've been saying that since my first day of. Training... So at least 14 months. With Kirby running things at UAL now, I wouldn't count on it.
09-24-2016, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
With AA and DAL heavily subsidizing their regional feed, UAL will have to do something or risk their feed drying up.
09-24-2016, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
You're in denial about the situation at TSA. Why would UAL offer anything when they plan on getting rid of most of their 50 seaters in about 2 years? Flow will never happen with Tsa, and the pref interviews is for carriers that actually have a future whith United. United would not care if TSA lost ERJ feed in a few years. Mesa probably has a better chance of getting something because they fly valuable AC to United. The fact that only commutair and expressjet have agreements is all you need to know what they think of future of Tsa at United.
09-24-2016, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
You're in denial about the situation at TSA. Why would UAL offer anything when they plan on getting rid of most of their 50 seaters in about 2 years? Flow will never happen with Tsa, and the pref interviews is for carriers that actually have a future whith United. United would not care if TSA lost ERJ feed in a few years. Mesa probably has a better chance of getting something because they fly valuable AC to United. The fact that only commutair and expressjet have agreements is all you need to know what they think of future of Tsa at United.
Look what you just said in the same response. We have 50 seaters so we're doomed. The two airlines you alluded to at the end with a CPP are also 50 seat carriers. Are they doomed as well?
09-24-2016, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
Do you cry yourself to sleep every night?
Look what you just said in the same response. We have 50 seaters so we're doomed. The two airlines you alluded to at the end with a CPP are also 50 seat carriers. Are they doomed as well?
Look what you just said in the same response. We have 50 seaters so we're doomed. The two airlines you alluded to at the end with a CPP are also 50 seat carriers. Are they doomed as well?
09-25-2016, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not in denial. I'm merely stating facts. You can't get rid of that much feed. When this really starts to pick up in a year, even a preferential interview isn't going to compete against Endeavor and the WOs. United is in serious trouble with their feed if they don't match the subsidizing that is going on at DAL and AAG.
09-25-2016, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Future Cpt Kirk
You're 100% correct. The million dollar question is whether or not TSA will be slated for UAL subsidies or whether we will be one of the carriers left out to dry. The problem today, right now, is that a lot of guys won't be willing to wait around and see. Our staffing issues will get worse. The reserve your seniority program is a bandaid on a broken leg. Upgrade times here have already shot way up. People will leave. The recruiting department has a steep mountain to climb. Hope it works out for the best....only time will tell. But the more time that passes, the larger the problems will be that management has to overcome.
09-25-2016, 05:24 AM
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Why have upgrade times shot up? Are CA's not moving on? I realize there's no growth but had assumed CA's would be moving on too in the current hiring environment. Are there a lot of FO's leaving to other regionals?
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09-25-2016, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PackPilot
Why have upgrade times shot up? Are CA's not moving on? I realize there's no growth but had assumed CA's would be moving on too in the current hiring environment. Are there a lot of FO's leaving to other regionals?
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