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Old 02-06-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Strykerinf View Post
Good news for anyone who thinks ALPA is worthless and shouldn't be required to take our money or we get "fined" anyway

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Negative, that case deals with public sector employees. Airlines would not apply.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
That ALPA sold as the best in the regional airline world.
In the contract airline world, alpa is pure bullsh*t. But that doesn't mean they are responsible for the other party to the agreement not abiding by the agreement.

You are too tiny and insignificant for alpa to care about what happens next, they get your money, helped with your current agreement, but that's it. You are on your own. Learn to apply the proper pressure to get what you want, its just that simple period.

I don't think contract pilots have it in them though. It's not that they are not capable, its just that they really don't care one way or the other. This forum is simply a place to blow off steam.

All of you- stop pointing fingers in the wrong direction, point them at yourselves.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
No to what?
This had nothing to do with 900's for additional 700's. This was a huge part of our 2013 contract. That ALPA sold as the best in the regional airline world. Well fast forward 3 years and with the company not following specific sections we are left with at least 30% less money than the previous contract.
We aren't talking $5000 here. More like $30-$50k per year.
It's huge. And ALPA national is only good at signing contracts. They have crap lawyers who write crap contracts.

Ever wonder how the airlines were able to get f/o's flying jets for $18-$20/hr.
Alpa signed off on it. It protected mainline jobs. The very senior ones.

It's time to get rid of the u ion that takes our dues but continuously degrades the regional airlines
Weak membership equals weak MEC which equals the results you are experiencing. ALPA is just a collection of airlines, someone has to be the weak sister, congrats you are her....
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
Weak membership equals weak MEC which equals the results you are experiencing. ALPA is just a collection of airlines, someone has to be the weak sister, congrats you are her....
Please name a single unionized pilot group that hasn't faced a contract violation or arbitration. By you're logic we are all the weak sister. Congratulations on being the sleazy easy sister like rest of us.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash View Post
We have been getting updates and each conference call is recorded and save on the pilot website so no excuse to not go and listen. As to why the forum is down, this is due to she awful server that runs half off our website. Nothing to do with the union shutting it down as you say. The server issues are rolling into the grievance site as well which is why the union is in works right now to move servers and get a new grievance layout up and running as fast as possible. From my knowledge and experience right now I can tell you that while it is not pleasant at all, 6 months is the average for arbitrators to make a decisions. AVERAGE. Being such a complex case it will take longer as it has. I'm not happy with it just like anyone else. As for the confidentiality agreement, this was signed and has been known about since the arbitration. If the pilot that was flown with was in fact there for the arbitration, he would have known this. I'm sick of seeing all these pilots here complaining when they make no effort to get involved and inform themselves. You complain about your Union, but do nothing to get involved and make a difference. Each vote for leadership has at best around a 12% turnout. So no one votes, but complains about our representation. Quit whining and get involved and make the change you want to see. I am by no means siding with our union, but I am calling out everyone one of you who complains about everything but is to lazy do do anything about it.
By that logic nobody should complain about our federal government then. We should volunteer to help the Feds then right?
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We pay taxes. Same as dues. My voice should have value. My Union should have to work for my money. I sure have to work for it.
8 months is too long. We need/want answers.
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Old 02-06-2016, 05:20 PM
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You guys complaining about what your mec is or isn't doing. You forget you are Alpa members. Most of the local level stuff is done by pilots. Be proactive. Get peoples signatures to support whatever it is you want. Coming on here a *****ing isn't going to much. Be a part of the solution, call Alpa national and make them earn what you've paid
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Realtalk View Post
You guys complaining about what your mec is or isn't doing. You forget you are Alpa members. Most of the local level stuff is done by pilots. Be proactive. Get peoples signatures to support whatever it is you want. Coming on here a *****ing isn't going to much. Be a part of the solution, call Alpa national and make them earn what you've paid
Alpa doesn't support regional pilots, they only collect dues. Smoke and mirrors. Additionally, having alpa represent major airlines and the contract airlines they are affiliated with is a conflict of interest.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass View Post
Alpa doesn't support regional pilots, they only collect dues. Smoke and mirrors. Additionally, having alpa represent major airlines and the contract airlines they are affiliated with is a conflict of interest.
You obviously don't understand how it works
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:24 PM
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You obviously don't understand how it works
What kind of moronic statement is that. Where's your supporting statements? I flagged your post because its so stupid. I know the standards on this site are low, but sh*t.
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:44 PM
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And after flagging HIS post, you will probably get a point against you for attempting to bypass the language filter. For shame...

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What kind of moronic statement is that. Where's your supporting statements? I flagged your post because its so stupid. I know the standards on this site are low, but sh*t.
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