PilotJ3

Meanwhile envoy is covering PDT flying out of PHL next month. Their hiring numbers are pretty bad, it won't take long before all the AA WO implodes. Of course it will start at PDT, because of their smaller size.

MKUltra

I'm sorry you heard that. For the most part most of the people that fly with pdt including me are not proud of the product we put out. We getting new routs but we can't cover much of what we have and the attrition and lack hiring the past 8 months. At no time should anyone in any regional, especially any of the wholly owns be confident that they are in a better situation than anyone else. American announced 1.6 billion dollars in pretax profit today, yet many of us are working for less than 15 dollars a duty hour for this entity. That's the sad part and all of us should hold our head in shame that we allow this to happen and nto gloat that we are flying a ratty dash a few extra legs to Ewr this month. Or a 145 to Notown USA that will operate on a 50 percent completion factor.

sweetholyjesus

Well said.

SpeedyVagabond

This has been my experience with the AA wholly owned groups as well. I'd love to see AA cut their flow like I hear from so many real AA pilots. I wish AWAC people the best. A great bunch of folks.

FODhopper

AWAC has the best performance of all the AAG regionals on the east coast... including fuel savings...it seems to be the only airline that knows how to operate in this area and still raise the average performance curve for all the regionals. PSA can brag about taking flying...but AAG is probably doing that with a gun to their head because AWACs planes are timing out and flying is being reduced... remember AAG was begging AWAC these past two years to cover for PSA who still can't get it done...that's partly why the planes are timing out...they had to pick up the slack.

If AAG is willing to pay for an aging aircraft inspection for some if these birds... they can continue on...right now at least four are already hacked up for parts....three more are being put in long term storage...but not the desert...

CLT Guy

Actually, PSA's completion factor and D:0 is really, really good. PSA's completion factor for the past 12 months is above 99.4% and until the summer thunderstorm season hit, the D:0 was also above 88%. I have a really hard time believing that AWAC's completion factor is higher than that.

The way that D:0 is calculated, if the flight is delayed due to weather, then it does not count against the D:0. But, if that delay causes a delay in the next flight (either because you were so delayed that you can't make the time up on the turn, or another airplane is delayed because they were waiting for your gate, or there was a DH crew on your airplane that can't get to their airplane, or several other reasons), then all of those other delays ARE counted against us for D:0. So, during the summer, any D:0 above 80% is pretty good considering there are thunderstorms in CLT just about every day.

And, if AWAC's fuel numbers are better than PSA's, then I really feel bad for the guys at AWAC. After seeing all of the nonsense that we put up with at PSA to keep our fuel numbers as low as possible, I would hate to think what you have to do to get them even lower.

Einstein2014

There is nothing more I hate than to get into a ****ing match as to which airline is the best. But, it grinds my gears 😂 When people post/paraphrase data without a source. Show us the source that contains that information to date. I am also interested in your opinion as to why you doubt AWAC's performance couldn't possibly be better than your company's.

squib

AWAC will fly a revenue flight 12 hours delayed with zero passengers just to get the completion factor. Meanwhile, junior man other crews to make up what the first crew wasn't available to do. They only cancel when there is literally no other option, even though it probably makes sense to take a cancellation here or there. If they cancel more than 2 flights "the operation is really struggling today."

CLT Guy

First of all, PSA sucks and I wish our CF was about 50%. Then things would change. They would fix the abysmal ground handling in CLT and improve pay and quality of life issues. With that said, our CF is really good. That is why the company is not doing anything to fix pay.

We get emails weekly with completion factor and D:0 and it is posted on the company website and updated daily. We also get bonuses for each month that we hit our goal.

In any airline, having a completion factor above 99% is hard to achieve. Airplanes break, crews call in sick at the out station, things happen. Even if AWAC is 99.9% CF, that is not really statistically relevant. What is AWACs CF for the trailing 12 months?

WakeWash

I don't think AWAC has a better performance, and that's from my experience on them. I love the crews there and all, and it's not their fault, but they aren't referred to as AirWiscancel for no reason.... I don't think I've ever been on a DH that wasn't delayed. Completion factor isn't everything when you're never on time. And I agree with CLTguy, if they have better fuel savings then holy hell!!! PSA is outrageous with their fuel savings bs. Even spending money for a fuel savings PowerPoint to show and keep track of each captains performance. Total joke.