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Old 08-23-2016, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlow7 View Post
Here's an item to consider about GoJet.
Two days before arriving at my new hire class, I and the rest of class got a call from an HR person telling us that they (GoJet) had decided to NOT pay the sign-on bonus that we had been promised. For me, with previous 121 experience, that was to be $10,000. A few weeks later, Trans States Holdings (that owns GoJet) started giving Trans States a bonus - an unapologetic slap in our face. Now, GoJet is giving a new hire bonus again.
They will demand total honesty all the while lying to your face without blinking and expect you to just take it.
And this is only the beginning of the story...there is way more to tell about this little smear of the afterbirth of aviation that GoJet happens to be.
The owner of Gojet and TSA has his own way of looking at all of us that is not the way you and I think. I would equate it to a rich privileged guy from a wealthy country visiting a very poor country, in a room full of prostitutes. He begins to view himself as a god and the lives of the prostitutes and the other poor people as having very little value. They only get what he decides to give them and he likes to see them beg and jump around for the dollar he waives about.

To say no to him will offend him and he will use his power to have you cast into the streets. He calculated that the 10 or 20 people coming to this class have just quit their jobs, moved out of their home or apartment. They have nowhere else to go at this moment in time. Take the money now and most will still come, even if they think they will then only stay a few weeks.. He knows many will not leave because pilots are very responsible people who don't like to disappoint those around them, even their abusers. So, with his simple announcement he breaks his promise and steals 10k form each of the 10 to 20 people. He nets himself 100 to 200k. He shows himself that in relation to you, he is a god. He has total contempt for each of his employees and resents every dollar he has to pay them.
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Old 08-23-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlow7 View Post
Here's an item to consider about GoJet.
Two days before arriving at my new hire class, I and the rest of class got a call from an HR person telling us that they (GoJet) had decided to NOT pay the sign-on bonus that we had been promised. For me, with previous 121 experience, that was to be $10,000. A few weeks later, Trans States Holdings (that owns GoJet) started giving Trans States a bonus - an unapologetic slap in our face. Now, GoJet is giving a new hire bonus again.
They will demand total honesty all the while lying to your face without blinking and expect you to just take it.
And this is only the beginning of the story...there is way more to tell about this little smear of the afterbirth of aviation that GoJet happens to be.
Please tell me you had some sort of written offer of that bonus? Email, letter, anything. If it's not in writing, it's worthless. If you do, talk to an attorney pronto.
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Old 08-24-2016, 05:19 AM
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Please tell me you had some sort of written offer of that bonus? Email, letter, anything. If it's not in writing, it's worthless. If you do, talk to an attorney pronto.
I doubt he'll win even if he does. They TSH bonus letter is contingent on showing up to class and it says clearly that, "can be discontinued at any time." Again, stop being a sucker and accepting compensation outside of the CBA. You're hurting the bargaining position of the pilot group you are joining and setting yourself up for something like this.
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Old 08-24-2016, 05:40 AM
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If there is a base that works well then give it consideration, honestly it wasn't all that bad at all...especially given the other choices of commuting to reserve vs a local line. when I got hired.....I was there 4 years then went to a major...good people there...make it work for you and move on.
Nothing special about the place at all, but I didn't feel it was nearly as rough as it was made out to be.
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Old 08-24-2016, 06:11 AM
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Have a friend who was a GoJetter that is now an FO at FedEx. He got there with zero internal letters of recommendation. So no, working at GoJet does not kill your chances of moving on.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
I doubt he'll win even if he does. They TSH bonus letter is contingent on showing up to class and it says clearly that, "can be discontinued at any time."
A jury would probably see it differently.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:18 PM
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If there is a base that works well then give it consideration, honestly it wasn't all that bad at all...especially given the other choices of commuting to reserve vs a local line. when I got hired.....I was there 4 years then went to a major...good people there...make it work for you and move on.
Nothing special about the place at all, but I didn't feel it was nearly as rough as it was made out to be.
Taters was one of the lucky ones. For every Tater there may be 2 or 3 who were not so lucky. You would fly with a guy one day and then never see him again. People just disappeared. Guys like Tater were the ones who never asked the question, "where did that guy go?" Maybe he had to take FMLA leave because his wife needed surgery - Fired. Maybe he wasn't the gal who got breast cancer and the company would be liable for 500k in medical treatment - checkride then fired, instant 500k savings for the owner. Maybe Tater was never a check airman who was told to takeoff with a 15 kt crosswind at night while it was snowing, off of a slippery and contaminated runway. Maybe Teter never got the call from a strange number only to find it was someone from the company calling on a private line so it would not be recorded telling him to change something in the logbook from a couple of days ago.

At Gojet it was not really who you were, how good you were, or what you did. It was more of a question of what circumstances you ended up in by chance. There is always a Gojet out there and it is always best to avoid it.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GoJetNoMore View Post
Taters was one of the lucky ones. For every Tater there may be 2 or 3 who were not so lucky. You would fly with a guy one day and then never see him again. People just disappeared. Guys like Tater were the ones who never asked the question, "where did that guy go?" Maybe he had to take FMLA leave because his wife needed surgery - Fired. Maybe he wasn't the gal who got breast cancer and the company would be liable for 500k in medical treatment - checkride then fired, instant 500k savings for the owner. Maybe Tater was never a check airman who was told to takeoff with a 15 kt crosswind at night while it was snowing, off of a slippery and contaminated runway. Maybe Teter never got the call from a strange number only to find it was someone from the company calling on a private line so it would not be recorded telling him to change something in the logbook from a couple of days ago.

At Gojet it was not really who you were, how good you were, or what you did. It was more of a question of what circumstances you ended up in by chance. There is always a Gojet out there and it is always best to avoid it.
Maybe so but its your fault for going there. The company didn't have a gun to your head forcing you to show up for class. You knew how bad it was going to be, or at least the voices in your head were telling you there's something wrong here when others warned you but you chose to go for the shinny jet. You can't have the cake and eat it too. If you go to a Hulas operation, you got nobody to blame but yourself.
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop View Post
A jury would probably see it differently.
Bench Trial.
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop View Post
A jury would probably see it differently.
Jury? I doubt something like that would get past a claims court. Im fairly certain that claims court has a judge make the ruling, no peers.

Specifically the document would need to be bulletproof. A large company certainly has retained councel that is good at what they do. Likely the petitioner would need to show if a law was violated in the agreement. Soooooo to do that you would need to retain your own council and trust me, that is expensive.

If gojet ****ed in your cheerios, go somewhere better. I personally will not tolerate a company doing that to me. Best show them how you feel with your shoes and do it before you waste any more time
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