New uniforms at AA WO problems?
12-04-2016, 09:56 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by PSA help
For us that were already on property, they were provided free.
There is nothing wrong with the uniforms that I have seen. The shirts are junk (seriously...new hires...DO NOT BUY THE SHIRTS THROUGH THE COMPANY!). They are thin and not made well. Even the $15 Van Heusen's are much better. ACutAbove are great.
But the rest of it is fine. Cheaply made in foreign countries, as you would expect, but no major issues.
There is nothing wrong with the uniforms that I have seen. The shirts are junk (seriously...new hires...DO NOT BUY THE SHIRTS THROUGH THE COMPANY!). They are thin and not made well. Even the $15 Van Heusen's are much better. ACutAbove are great.
But the rest of it is fine. Cheaply made in foreign countries, as you would expect, but no major issues.
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?
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12-04-2016, 10:01 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by determined2fly
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?
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12-04-2016, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by determined2fly
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?
You can see right through it.
If you already ordered them, check them out. They may be better now. But, if not, just send them back. Even if you just get credit, that is better than nothing.
12-04-2016, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PSA help
They are very thin and poorly made. The buttons are barely sewn on, and sometimes in the wrong spot. My long sleeved shirt doesn't have a hole cut for the button on the wrist and the sleeves appear to be sewn on incorrectly.
You can see right through it.
If you already ordered them, check them out. They may be better now. But, if not, just send them back. Even if you just get credit, that is better than nothing.
You can see right through it.
If you already ordered them, check them out. They may be better now. But, if not, just send them back. Even if you just get credit, that is better than nothing.
Not good...thanks for the info. I been hearing mixed feed back in regards to wearing company issued shirts or going with a better brand ...I guess for the folks on probation probably be good idea just to stick with company uniform ?
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12-04-2016, 10:12 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by ag386
The uniforms at Envoy Air make me physically sick. When I see a crew with these outfits on in the terminal, it reminds me of:
4 on 2 off
4am pre assigned RAPs
Big time bonuses for the new hires with a paycut in year 2, 3, 4, etc.
Lost overnights in GSO
Awful reserve rules
Horrible treatment by crew scheduling
Multiple reserve turn backs after the contract says only one is allowed
Horrible and punitive treatment by management
Constant junior man assignments, read, your life doesn't belong to you
When I see Envoy crews, they look beat up, downtrodden, bags under their eyes and ready to give up. All of this for the hope of.....flowing.
4 on 2 off
4am pre assigned RAPs
Big time bonuses for the new hires with a paycut in year 2, 3, 4, etc.
Lost overnights in GSO
Awful reserve rules
Horrible treatment by crew scheduling
Multiple reserve turn backs after the contract says only one is allowed
Horrible and punitive treatment by management
Constant junior man assignments, read, your life doesn't belong to you
When I see Envoy crews, they look beat up, downtrodden, bags under their eyes and ready to give up. All of this for the hope of.....flowing.
12-04-2016, 11:00 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by cali2797
Or maybe they remind you that you got fired.
12-04-2016, 11:06 AM
#17
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We just have to wear a white pilot shirt. Clean. It doesn't matter where it comes from.
Originally Posted by determined2fly
Not good...thanks for the info. I been hearing mixed feed back in regards to wearing company issued shirts or going with a better brand ...I guess for the folks on probation probably be good idea just to stick with company uniform ?
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12-04-2016, 12:55 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by determined2fly
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?
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Or when putting our wings, they forgot to match the holes, so you have one pin in a hole the other through the shirt.
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