UPS Accident - BHM
#221
RIP Cerea and Shanda.
#222
On December 1st, 1984, a remote controlled 4 engined transport jet took off from Edwards AFB, CA and crashed into a barren patch of nearby desert. This Controlled Impact Demonstration was a joint R&D program by the FAA and NASA. The FAA designed the C.I.D. to underscore results of exhaustive research in two areas of aircraft safety: improved crash protection and reduced post-crash fire hazards.Despite the fact the crash did not go exactly as designed C.I.D.did achieve its primary objectives.The analysis of C.I.D. data continues. The CID's crash worthiness tests were as important to the FAA as the fire safety tests. The crash protection objectives were: 1st: To obtain data on impact forces and their transmission thru the structure to the seats and occupants. 2nd: To evaluate the performance of existing and advanced energy absorbing seats. 3rd :To compare tests used to predict structural behaviour with an actual crash. AMK (anti-misting kerosene) fuel was employed in the test. The FAA has examined AMK's potential for protecting commercial transports from ignition of misted fuels. All research indicated that AMK would be effective in preventing this problem. The C.I.D. was an opportunity to use AMK in a realistic, impact-survivable crash.
#224
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
UPS pilots warned of low altitude seven seconds before crash | Reuters
On a side note, how does a 23 year UPS guy only have 8,600 hrs total time?
Edit: From the NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/us...rash.html?_r=0
WASHINGTON — Sixteen seconds before a U.P.S. cargo plane crashed on approach to the airport in Birmingham, Ala., on Wednesday morning, an automated system in the cockpit warned that the aircraft, an Airbus A300, was descending too fast, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board said Friday.
The warning was captured on the cockpit voice recorder, which was recovered from the wreckage on Thursday.
Three seconds after the warning — in the form of a mechanical voice saying, “Sink rate, sink rate” — one of the two pilots told the other that the runway was in sight, according to the safety board member, Robert Sumwalt, who was at the crash site. Then, nine seconds before the end of the recording, there are “sounds that are consistent with impact,’’ Mr. Sumwalt said.
The plane came down outside the fence at Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport, hitting the trees and then the ground north of the airfield. Both pilots were killed.
Investigators have also recovered the flight data recorder, he said, but he did not discuss its contents.
Mr. Sumwalt’s remarks were the investigators’ first substantive comments on the crash.
The captain of the U.P.S. plane had worked for the company since 1990 and had extensive experience — 8,600 hours of flight time, including 3,200 hours in the A300, Mr. Sumwalt said. The first officer had worked for U.P.S. since 2006. She had 6,500 hours of experience, including 400 in the A300, he said.
On a side note, how does a 23 year UPS guy only have 8,600 hrs total time?
Edit: From the NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/us...rash.html?_r=0
WASHINGTON — Sixteen seconds before a U.P.S. cargo plane crashed on approach to the airport in Birmingham, Ala., on Wednesday morning, an automated system in the cockpit warned that the aircraft, an Airbus A300, was descending too fast, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board said Friday.
The warning was captured on the cockpit voice recorder, which was recovered from the wreckage on Thursday.
Three seconds after the warning — in the form of a mechanical voice saying, “Sink rate, sink rate” — one of the two pilots told the other that the runway was in sight, according to the safety board member, Robert Sumwalt, who was at the crash site. Then, nine seconds before the end of the recording, there are “sounds that are consistent with impact,’’ Mr. Sumwalt said.
The plane came down outside the fence at Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport, hitting the trees and then the ground north of the airfield. Both pilots were killed.
Investigators have also recovered the flight data recorder, he said, but he did not discuss its contents.
Mr. Sumwalt’s remarks were the investigators’ first substantive comments on the crash.
The captain of the U.P.S. plane had worked for the company since 1990 and had extensive experience — 8,600 hours of flight time, including 3,200 hours in the A300, Mr. Sumwalt said. The first officer had worked for U.P.S. since 2006. She had 6,500 hours of experience, including 400 in the A300, he said.
#225
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Seeking no jacket required rotations
Posts: 1,069
1. Sat reserve a lot and didnt fly.
2. Long term medical leave with subsequent return to flight status.
3. Union work.
4. Took a management position in flight ops.
5. Military leaves/recall to active duty.
6. Flight engineer time not included.
7. Instructed a lot in sims.
#226
In seven years, I think I've logged less than 2000 hours at UPS. I fly the most ever now on the MD11 and that's about 300 hours a year as a line holder.
My low was bidding reserve on the 757 on purpose and I flew less than 100 for a year.
As a side note, I know a captain who was hired in 1989 who hopes to retire with less than 5000 hours. Senior and bids reserve.
#227
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
You could get hired back in the early to mid 90s with a lot less time than those being hired post 2001.
In seven years, I think I've logged less than 2000 hours at UPS. I fly the most ever now on the MD11 and that's about 300 hours a year as a line holder.
My low was bidding reserve on the 757 on purpose and I flew less than 100 for a year.
In seven years, I think I've logged less than 2000 hours at UPS. I fly the most ever now on the MD11 and that's about 300 hours a year as a line holder.
My low was bidding reserve on the 757 on purpose and I flew less than 100 for a year.
#228
I had vacation in June and didn't turn a wheel.
I had 6 month training in January dropped an eleven day trip, and IRO'd one leg ANC-PVG.
(training every 6 months for the 747/MD pilots both seats)
Last month I dropped a 12 day trip for 12 month training.
I have one 12 day trip this month with a total block of about 45 hours, but since it's all 3 man legs, you get 2/3 of the time.
Bid a trip that carries into the next bid and conflict it with a trip in the new bid so it gets dropped.
I fly all international.
For the months of June, July and August, I will block about 70 hours total and 2 landings.
A line I hope to get next bid has 48 hours block in the 1st 4 week span and 25 hours block in the 2nd 4 week span.
#229
Sounds like they signed in around 2030 and flew Rockford-Peoria-Louisville-Birmingham that night.
Shyguy- Freighters, particularly on the domestic categories tend to do what we would call highspeeds several nights a week, and that's it. Except instead of a hotel, they are in the hub for the sort. Their lines are mostly credit and very low block.
Shyguy- Freighters, particularly on the domestic categories tend to do what we would call highspeeds several nights a week, and that's it. Except instead of a hotel, they are in the hub for the sort. Their lines are mostly credit and very low block.
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