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Old 04-12-2014, 12:18 PM
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Wow that was cringeworthy. I can't help but have some concern over this. He lost his cool in a HUGE way and went on later to go for another flight. The FSS controller sure didn't seem to believe his story either.
Yeah, he should probably at least get a 709 ride or hang up his ticket until he can re-evaulate things. Nobody should panic like this and be in the cockpit.

The thing is I think that idiotic videos like the "170 seconds to live" crap scares the VFR pilot rather than educating him. That video is irresponsible in my opinion, and after seeing it pilots who get into this situation may simply panic, thinking their fate is sealed, instead of remaining calm and making a 180 or doing a letdown to VFR altitudes. Every VFR pilot is already supposed to have 3h of instrument time and a healthy respect for IMC.
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Old 04-12-2014, 07:13 PM
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The scary part is that it can happen to anyone who hasn't learned to recognize and effectively deal with the signs, symptoms and effects of uncertainty. Training programs woefully overestimate certainty on the line and, consequently, ignore the need to prepare pilots to deal effectively with ambiguity, inconsistency, doubt and confusion.
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Air traffic controller helps save pilot lost in clouds above Houston area | News - Home

Another pilot getting in over his head with weather (and a total loss of SA!).
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Air traffic controller helps save pilot lost in clouds above Houston area | News - Home

Another pilot getting in over his head with weather (and a total loss of SA!).
I'll just cringe and bite my tongue. Guys like this give GA a bad name. "Oh, ceilings just 'became' 500 feet, wish I had listened to the entire AWOS."

Look how proud he is to tell that story on tv... Any reputable pilot would be completely ashamed.

Yeah, good job by the controller though.
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Exactly.
Now tell the story of the enforcement action taken against the pilot.
Even if he was basically equipped and had received the minimum amount of instrument training during his PPL, he should have had some SA of his position. It seems most of the GA pilots nowdays at least have a Garmin 430 onboard!
I'll focus on the efforts of the young controller here and give him kudos and just shake my head at the pilot. I mean really....takeoff at KLBX enroute to KBYY and ends up over KHOU?
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:53 AM
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Hey guys had a quick question on this. It sounds like in the audio that at first the pilot is in a downward spin after being disorientated? ATC told him to release the stick/push forward/pull back, etc. I forget the order. It seemed like right after this he was out of the spin?? I guess I'm just wondering how that fixed the issue? I understand releasing the stick so as not to make it worse but wouldn't you also need full opposite rudder?
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Originally Posted by evamodel00 View Post
Hey guys had a quick question on this. It sounds like in the audio that at first the pilot is in a downward spin after being disorientated? ATC told him to release the stick/push forward/pull back, etc. I forget the order. It seemed like right after this he was out of the spin?? I guess I'm just wondering how that fixed the issue? I understand releasing the stick so as not to make it worse but wouldn't you also need full opposite rudder?
He was probably never in a spin, but just got disorientation when he lost outside reference and panicked.

Radar track supposedly supports this but I can't find any real evidence or the actual radar track from any sources.
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