The New "New" Pay Talks - 2018 Edition
02-13-2018, 06:09 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by word302
Except the company does not set block times, the partners do. I wish more people would educate themselves before spewing nonsense.
02-13-2018, 06:13 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Reflow after check-in is voluntary but must pay 150% minimum.
Invol reflow (of any sort) should have pay protection for what you bid PLUS at least 150% on the reflow.
02-13-2018, 06:58 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Why set a fixed rate for VOLUNTARY reflow? If they don't offer enough, then don't do it. That creates a free-market system, in some cases they'd probably offer 300%...
Invol reflow (of any sort) should have pay protection for what you bid PLUS at least 150% on the reflow.
Invol reflow (of any sort) should have pay protection for what you bid PLUS at least 150% on the reflow.
02-13-2018, 10:14 AM
#14
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Our partners set the block times. Educate yourself on block or better and why we're getting screwed people. Block or better needs to be one of the top priorities.
After that, I would like to see incentives for more flying or pick ups on off days (percentage override after x hours awarded/ flown, automatically start at 150% and go up from there). I would also like to see compensation for ridiculously long sits whether scheduled or actual (mtx delays, etc). Get rid of "scheduled" and replace with "actual" for duty rigs. Too many instances of people getting paid 4-5 hours credit for a max FDP day (myself included). Complete crap and destroys morale.
Anything less than Republic hourly rates is an automatic no vote from me.
And stop proposing 5 year deals in this market.
*rant over*
After that, I would like to see incentives for more flying or pick ups on off days (percentage override after x hours awarded/ flown, automatically start at 150% and go up from there). I would also like to see compensation for ridiculously long sits whether scheduled or actual (mtx delays, etc). Get rid of "scheduled" and replace with "actual" for duty rigs. Too many instances of people getting paid 4-5 hours credit for a max FDP day (myself included). Complete crap and destroys morale.
Anything less than Republic hourly rates is an automatic no vote from me.
And stop proposing 5 year deals in this market.
*rant over*
02-13-2018, 10:44 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by N1234
Which would then set the cap to any market rate .... so it better be higher than 150%.
02-13-2018, 11:26 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There's no reason it would set the cap for market rate, the two are not related.
Just like not offering more than $800 for a denied boarding and then resort to call the airport cops for Chinese take-out.
02-13-2018, 11:29 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by hawk21
Our partners set the block times. Educate yourself on block or better and why we're getting screwed people. Block or better needs to be one of the top priorities.
After that, I would like to see incentives for more flying or pick ups on off days (percentage override after x hours awarded/ flown, automatically start at 150% and go up from there). I would also like to see compensation for ridiculously long sits whether scheduled or actual (mtx delays, etc). Get rid of "scheduled" and replace with "actual" for duty rigs. Too many instances of people getting paid 4-5 hours credit for a max FDP day (myself included). Complete crap and destroys morale.
Anything less than Republic hourly rates is an automatic no vote from me.
And stop proposing 5 year deals in this market.
*rant over*
After that, I would like to see incentives for more flying or pick ups on off days (percentage override after x hours awarded/ flown, automatically start at 150% and go up from there). I would also like to see compensation for ridiculously long sits whether scheduled or actual (mtx delays, etc). Get rid of "scheduled" and replace with "actual" for duty rigs. Too many instances of people getting paid 4-5 hours credit for a max FDP day (myself included). Complete crap and destroys morale.
Anything less than Republic hourly rates is an automatic no vote from me.
And stop proposing 5 year deals in this market.
*rant over*
02-13-2018, 11:46 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Do you get to vote? What say do any of the pilots have in these talks?
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