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Old 08-30-2018, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny150 View Post
No wonder ABX cat retain qualified pilots, they won’t even give the crews Known Crew Member.
Not sure what that has to do with unqualified pilots washing out of training.

But I submit to you that if you're making your career decisions based on KCM, your priorities are screwed up. That's just me, though.
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:11 AM
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Flying well, and not crashing, are two very different things.
I would certainly argue that not crashing was an essential subset of flying well...
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Old 08-30-2018, 12:26 PM
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Must be solid recruits. At least you haven’t let one cr*sh a 767 like Atlas did.


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What happened?
Description of incident here. Synopsis: 767-300 carrying US Troops from overseas landed hard at PSM in calm, clear weather and creased the fuselage. Some say it just needs a BIG roll of speed tape.
Accident: Atlas B763 at Portsmouth on Jul 27th 2018, hard landing

One rumor was that the FO, on his IOE, performed the landing. Not sure that was ever confirmed.
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
Originally Posted by JackStraw
Must be solid recruits. At least you haven’t let one cr*sh a 767 like Atlas did.




Description of incident here. Synopsis: 767-300 carrying US Troops from overseas landed hard at PSM in calm, clear weather and creased the fuselage. Some say it just needs a BIG roll of speed tape.
Accident: Atlas B763 at Portsmouth on Jul 27th 2018, hard landing

One rumor was that the FO, on his IOE, performed the landing. Not sure that was ever confirmed.
That has happened several times before to 763’s. Later production tails had additional fuselage stringers added to prevent that exact problem. Here’s a good video showing what leads to the creasing.
https://youtu.be/Jw-aUVa3a0U
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Old 08-30-2018, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny150 View Post
No wonder ABX can’t t retain qualified pilots, they won’t even give the crews Known Crew Member.


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You think that is why pilots are quitting?
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Old 08-30-2018, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
You think that is why pilots are quitting?


According to some that have quit yes, it Is a small piece of the pie but people have mentioned that among a long list of other items...


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Old 08-30-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
That has happened several times before to 763’s. Later production tails had additional fuselage stringers added to prevent that exact problem. Here’s a good video showing what leads to the creasing.
https://youtu.be/Jw-aUVa3a0U
For sure the tail quits flying about 85kts.
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Old 08-30-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny150 View Post
According to some that have quit yes, it Is a small piece of the pie but people have mentioned that among a long list of other items...
If they had a long list, then KCM didn't make a difference one way or the other. It's not the thing that would have kept them at ABX, and it's not the thing that would have driven them away if everything else had been perfect. It's just another thing to complain about on the way out the door.
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Originally Posted by badflaps View Post
For sure the tail quits flying about 85kts.
One of Boeing’s biggest flaws.
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If they had a long list, then KCM didn't make a difference one way or the other. It's not the thing that would have kept them at ABX, and it's not the thing that would have driven them away if everything else had been perfect. It's just another thing to complain about on the way out the door.
Exactly............
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