Atlas pilots deserve better? Teamsters 1224 v
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 87
If ALPA was last at your property in 2005 what has IBT been doing?
According to APC you contract was amendable over two years ago...
AND
WB FOs at my airline make more than your 747 CAs... think about that every time you fly...
Weak unions like SWAPA, IPA and IBT are easy for the company to manipulate and delay...
Enjoy....
....the scourge.
According to APC you contract was amendable over two years ago...
AND
WB FOs at my airline make more than your 747 CAs... think about that every time you fly...
Weak unions like SWAPA, IPA and IBT are easy for the company to manipulate and delay...
Enjoy....
....the scourge.
#22
1) Were you at a regional when ALPA was your Union?
2) Are you at Atlas?
If you were a commuter pilot I would agree that ALPA was valueless to you. The power will always be where the board members work. The board members are voted in usually by the larger airline. BTW the head of ALPA is a Cargo pilot now. If you are at Atlas, kind of a good deal. If not, very bad deal and you should consider leaving as you will receive even less representation financially than a commuter pilot.
There is no comparison between the non negotiating programs that ALPA has compared to the IBT.
So how are the negotiations progressing over at Atlas? I assume from your comments regarding the higher quality of representation that IBT provides that they must be right on schedule.
One last comment. I watch with interest the negative remarks made about the ATI contract. If Atlas and ABX fail to acquire a new contract by the time ATI gets their next one (possibly) how much more money and benefits will a pilot at ATI have accrued? Just something to think about regarding different strategies.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: Wichita
Posts: 653
If the judge rules in favor of AAWH and against the pilots in regard to the arbitration hearing, then the IBT is going to have a bad time. It might turn pretty ugly pretty fast.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 279
You said ALPA was better than IPA OR IBT. He said he prefers IPA. I presume that this means that he works for UPS. And, uhm, judging by the UPS contract, the IPA seems to be just fine from the cheap seats.
#25
No, I wrote that ALPA has better non-negotiations programs than the IBT. I have never mentioned IPA
#26
https://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/..._Providers.pdf
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 182
So typical for Delta to copy everything that Atlas does.
#29
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 87
Please explain 2 things for me.
1) Were you at a regional when ALPA was your Union?
2) Are you at Atlas?
If you were a commuter pilot I would agree that ALPA was valueless to you. The power will always be where the board members work. The board members are voted in usually by the larger airline. BTW the head of ALPA is a Cargo pilot now. If you are at Atlas, kind of a good deal. If not, very bad deal and you should consider leaving as you will receive even less representation financially than a commuter pilot.
There is no comparison between the non negotiating programs that ALPA has compared to the IBT.
So how are the negotiations progressing over at Atlas? I assume from your comments regarding the higher quality of representation that IBT provides that they must be right on schedule.
One last comment. I watch with interest the negative remarks made about the ATI contract. If Atlas and ABX fail to acquire a new contract by the time ATI gets their next one (possibly) how much more money and benefits will a pilot at ATI have accrued? Just something to think about regarding different strategies.
1) Were you at a regional when ALPA was your Union?
2) Are you at Atlas?
If you were a commuter pilot I would agree that ALPA was valueless to you. The power will always be where the board members work. The board members are voted in usually by the larger airline. BTW the head of ALPA is a Cargo pilot now. If you are at Atlas, kind of a good deal. If not, very bad deal and you should consider leaving as you will receive even less representation financially than a commuter pilot.
There is no comparison between the non negotiating programs that ALPA has compared to the IBT.
So how are the negotiations progressing over at Atlas? I assume from your comments regarding the higher quality of representation that IBT provides that they must be right on schedule.
One last comment. I watch with interest the negative remarks made about the ATI contract. If Atlas and ABX fail to acquire a new contract by the time ATI gets their next one (possibly) how much more money and benefits will a pilot at ATI have accrued? Just something to think about regarding different strategies.
I wasn’t referring to your comment hence the quote of someone else.
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