Atlas Air Imputed Income
02-06-2019, 04:59 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by JungleJetDriver
As a pilot group unify, walk in and quit. Everyone of you, on the same day. All this crying with no action doesn’t bode well for you guys. You come across as imasculated, crybabies. Grow a pair and do something about it. Otherwise it must not be that bad.
03-02-2019, 10:18 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by Max7
hello, just a quick question, need your help and some suggestions,,,,
do you guys think moving from Skywest Airlines to ATLAS, Would be a good move?
I really don't mined night flying or be away from home for 17days, but it looks like there is lot of hidden fees will come off your paycheck,
recently they contact me and now even they providing confirmed ticket with Hotel for my interview
just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up...
any help appreciate
do you guys think moving from Skywest Airlines to ATLAS, Would be a good move?
I really don't mined night flying or be away from home for 17days, but it looks like there is lot of hidden fees will come off your paycheck,
recently they contact me and now even they providing confirmed ticket with Hotel for my interview
just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up...
any help appreciate
03-02-2019, 10:43 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,930
Originally Posted by Max7
hello, just a quick question, need your help and some suggestions,,,,
do you guys think moving from Skywest Airlines to ATLAS, Would be a good move?
I really don't mined night flying or be away from home for 17days, but it looks like there is lot of hidden fees will come off your paycheck,
recently they contact me and now even they providing confirmed ticket with Hotel for my interview
just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up...
any help appreciate
do you guys think moving from Skywest Airlines to ATLAS, Would be a good move?
I really don't mined night flying or be away from home for 17days, but it looks like there is lot of hidden fees will come off your paycheck,
recently they contact me and now even they providing confirmed ticket with Hotel for my interview
just don't want to stay in regional trying to move up...
any help appreciate
02-06-2021, 01:12 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: single-pilot multi turbine captain
Posts: 240
Sooo, the company website reads "This program is voluntary and a benefit, crewmembers can opt out." Is anyone savvy enough to address the issue accurately? I am not, but am ghinking it counts as income and you will be taxed accordingly, OR you can have it computed as part of your withholding gouge. Also, I expect it's income not reported to Social Security and the SS tax will not apply to that portion.
02-06-2021, 01:39 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: single-pilot multi turbine captain
Posts: 240
I guessed wrong, SS applies - at least it boosts your SS benefit 🤞Here is a reference, may not be most current: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p15b.pdf
02-09-2021, 05:00 AM
#37
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
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Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Fewer and fewer pilots are staying at Atlas.
The latest chart shows an average of 200 pilots a year leaving for greener pastures. Of those who haven't left yet, a vast majority have applications out and plan to leave.
I can assure you that the decision making process of those who have not left is sound and they have chosen to stay and fight (or to fight until they move on!).
The decision making process that should be questioned is the one that leads pilots to make the decision to come to Atlas today.
The latest chart shows an average of 200 pilots a year leaving for greener pastures. Of those who haven't left yet, a vast majority have applications out and plan to leave.
I can assure you that the decision making process of those who have not left is sound and they have chosen to stay and fight (or to fight until they move on!).
The decision making process that should be questioned is the one that leads pilots to make the decision to come to Atlas today.
Bottom line is this. Pilots from the middle of the pack up are not seeing very many of the problems whined about on this thread. They make decent (not standard) money. They work decent schedules. They very seldom if ever pay imputed taxes. In short they stay because their life is not at all the life of the pilots below the middle.
The problem for the pilots is that it will be a long time before the industry gets back to the point where pilots in the bottom half are again free to leave due to a pilot shortage. However, this is not all bad news for the pilots in the top half. By the time the industry returns to where it was pre-Covid, the Amazon thing may be decided. There will be a clearer path for the pilots to see without the specter of sale or breakup in the mix. Atlas will need pilots to fly the planes. There will be no pilots unless they offer compensation. Atlas will see that it will be a favorable ROI and do it. Unless the pilots sign another long term contract.....
So, potential new hires. Go to Atlas as a stepping stone. Great people to fly with. Nice aircraft, and good destinations once you learn how to work the system a bit. Weigh that against all of the problems portrayed above. They are real problems and you will be dealing with them.
02-09-2021, 05:31 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 693
Well, since Maxjet is retired and never worked for Atlas, he wouldn't realize that with this management team, everything is literally a fight.
If you're not fighting against the thugs in management you're literally part of the problem at Atlas.
If you're not fighting against the thugs in management you're literally part of the problem at Atlas.
02-09-2021, 06:37 AM
#39
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,349
Originally Posted by zerozero
Well, since Maxjet is retired and never worked for Atlas, he wouldn't realize that with this management team, everything is literally a fight.
If you're not fighting against the thugs in management you're literally part of the problem at Atlas.
If you're not fighting against the thugs in management you're literally part of the problem at Atlas.
More importantly we don't shut-up. I just finished a trip. During this flight a gentleman name-dropped a pilot and described what the stewards are doing for that person. That person name-dropped another pilot and described what pro-standards was doing about that person. All of this was unsolicited by anyone on the flight deck. So pro-standards and the stewards are leaking information to this guy. I'm sure they're thinking they are speaking to a trustworthy friend, albeit inappropriately. He's casually using this information to build rapport with new pilots. The result is yet another breakdown and yet another example of systems failing to perform as advertised.
But we're telling our pilots they're the problem? That, my friend, is institutional cowardice. You're personally better than this.
Instead of issuing more grand statements let's get ourselves together. That means cleaning up our own act. It also means not painting with a broad brush. There are people there willing to work with us and be reasonable. Calling them thugs paints them into a corner and turns potential partners into enemies. This is a weak leader's gambit to build support underneath himself while compromising the greater effort. Instead cite the people that help. We're not fighting a monolith. This type of thinking blinds us to potential opportunities and advantages.
02-09-2021, 07:07 AM
#40
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 384
Originally Posted by maxjet
Stay and fight? Really? Fight for what? Fight for whom? I would hope that there is no fighting from the pilot group going on. If there is, then they are getting their asses kicked.
Bottom line is this. Pilots from the middle of the pack up are not seeing very many of the problems whined about on this thread. They make decent (not standard) money. They work decent schedules. They very seldom if ever pay imputed taxes. In short they stay because their life is not at all the life of the pilots below the middle.
The problem for the pilots is that it will be a long time before the industry gets back to the point where pilots in the bottom half are again free to leave due to a pilot shortage. However, this is not all bad news for the pilots in the top half. By the time the industry returns to where it was pre-Covid, the Amazon thing may be decided. There will be a clearer path for the pilots to see without the specter of sale or breakup in the mix. Atlas will need pilots to fly the planes. There will be no pilots unless they offer compensation. Atlas will see that it will be a favorable ROI and do it. Unless the pilots sign another long term contract.....
So, potential new hires. Go to Atlas as a stepping stone. Great people to fly with. Nice aircraft, and good destinations once you learn how to work the system a bit. Weigh that against all of the problems portrayed above. They are real problems and you will be dealing with them.
Bottom line is this. Pilots from the middle of the pack up are not seeing very many of the problems whined about on this thread. They make decent (not standard) money. They work decent schedules. They very seldom if ever pay imputed taxes. In short they stay because their life is not at all the life of the pilots below the middle.
The problem for the pilots is that it will be a long time before the industry gets back to the point where pilots in the bottom half are again free to leave due to a pilot shortage. However, this is not all bad news for the pilots in the top half. By the time the industry returns to where it was pre-Covid, the Amazon thing may be decided. There will be a clearer path for the pilots to see without the specter of sale or breakup in the mix. Atlas will need pilots to fly the planes. There will be no pilots unless they offer compensation. Atlas will see that it will be a favorable ROI and do it. Unless the pilots sign another long term contract.....
So, potential new hires. Go to Atlas as a stepping stone. Great people to fly with. Nice aircraft, and good destinations once you learn how to work the system a bit. Weigh that against all of the problems portrayed above. They are real problems and you will be dealing with them.
Dude. Seriously.. how would you know.. you didn’t work there. **** and be retired already! Also the pilot shortage is/will be back much sooner than you think. Early outs at most of the majors means I would be willing to bet a few pay checks that you will start seeing new hire Classes at the big 3 before the end of the year in order to be properly staffed for summer 2022.
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