717 phase out?
03-25-2019, 08:52 AM
#55
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Over the last few years, the MAX8 has been outselling the 320NEO because it has better CASM. This is due to it having a few more seats vs the 320NEO. The 320NEO has been rumored to grow by 10-20 seats. That would give it superior economics to the popular (not at the moment) MAX 8. This also makes space for the 220-500 business case. Either way, a -500 won't come until the A220 supply line matures. Could be a while, or never. But when the CEO says "In the future Airbus is going to want to bring on the 500..", it's not just unsubstantiated fan speak.
So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
03-25-2019, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
What about the JetBlue order for the 220-300?
I was showing 100 of those orders are not real unless I missed something and Moxy is becoming a real thing and republic is taking the jets.
03-25-2019, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Red
Right now the CASM for the Max is undefined as you can't divide by zero 
03-25-2019, 12:24 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
We need the 225, but Airbus doesn't. Neither does the rest of the world. Just us.
It's not feasible for any manufacturer to develop a clean slate design for any midsize narrowbody at this time. There isn't enough savings in a new design to justify the cost of the program. That's why Boeing is hurting so much on the 737 as we talked about in the other thread. They are stuck with that thing no matter what.
03-25-2019, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Over the last few years, the MAX8 has been outselling the 320NEO because it has better CASM. This is due to it having a few more seats vs the 320NEO. The 320NEO has been rumored to grow by 10-20 seats. That would give it superior economics to the popular (not at the moment) MAX 8. This also makes space for the 220-500 business case. Either way, a -500 won't come until the A220 supply line matures. Could be a while, or never. But when the CEO says "In the future Airbus is going to want to bring on the 500..", it's not just unsubstantiated fan speak.
So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
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