JetBlue vs UPS
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Guy in my class came from B6... I believe he was at year 4 or 5. Cpt on the 190.... he’s glad he made the move. Sorry I can’t offer more intel. I’ll ask him if he’s on APC.
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To the OP: I’m a SDF native but live on one of the coasts now. I also have family flying at brown but I’m at B6. First year at JB is $43/hr higher but after that UPS is consistently $35-40/hr higher year after year. That adds up! But neither will have you in the poor house with captains at the top of the scale taking home $270k vs $310k at min guarantee as things stand now.
I’d say lifestyle is the biggest difference. UPS is probably more commuter friendly and has great long trips as well as shorter hub turning stuff that sounds tougher to me but I hear more local guys love it. JB has your standard 3-4 on 3-4 off schedule of mostly 3 and 4 day trips with some 1, 2 and 5 days (UPS has all these trip lengths and then some) and has you working typically working 13-14 days a month. I like 1,2 or 3 day trips to keep my nights away from at a minimum but I know most guys that don’t live in base like longer trips to reduce number of commutes.
JB has never furloughed...until they do of course. They’ve got 85 321NEO’s coming as growth starting this month as well as higher paying A220’s to replace the 190 starting next year. UPS has a lot of growth coming too with -8 orders and 767’s plus retirements really start to kick off in a couple of years so movement should be good at either. Id say you are very lucky if you’ve got the choice between the two!
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Oh wow. I’m assuming this was before B6 got their first contract last summer? If it was a couple of years ago I’m sure he could be a year 6 or 7 A320 Captain making $248/instead of $175ish as a UPS FO but a lot more than just money goes into those type of decisions.
To the OP: I’m a SDF native but live on one of the coasts now. I also have family flying at brown but I’m at B6. First year at JB is $43/hr higher but after that UPS is consistently $35-40/hr higher year after year. That adds up! But neither will have you in the poor house with captains at the top of the scale taking home $270k vs $310k at min guarantee as things stand now.
I’d say lifestyle is the biggest difference. UPS is probably more commuter friendly and has great long trips as well as shorter hub turning stuff that sounds tougher to me but I hear more local guys love it. JB has your standard 3-4 on 3-4 off schedule of mostly 3 and 4 day trips with some 1, 2 and 5 days (UPS has all these trip lengths and then some) and has you working typically working 13-14 days a month. I like 1,2 or 3 day trips to keep my nights away from at a minimum but I know most guys that don’t live in base like longer trips to reduce number of commutes.
JB has never furloughed...until they do of course. They’ve got 85 321NEO’s coming as growth starting this month as well as higher paying A220’s to replace the 190 starting next year. UPS has a lot of growth coming too with -8 orders and 767’s plus retirements really start to kick off in a couple of years so movement should be good at either. Id say you are very lucky if you’ve got the choice between the two!
To the OP: I’m a SDF native but live on one of the coasts now. I also have family flying at brown but I’m at B6. First year at JB is $43/hr higher but after that UPS is consistently $35-40/hr higher year after year. That adds up! But neither will have you in the poor house with captains at the top of the scale taking home $270k vs $310k at min guarantee as things stand now.
I’d say lifestyle is the biggest difference. UPS is probably more commuter friendly and has great long trips as well as shorter hub turning stuff that sounds tougher to me but I hear more local guys love it. JB has your standard 3-4 on 3-4 off schedule of mostly 3 and 4 day trips with some 1, 2 and 5 days (UPS has all these trip lengths and then some) and has you working typically working 13-14 days a month. I like 1,2 or 3 day trips to keep my nights away from at a minimum but I know most guys that don’t live in base like longer trips to reduce number of commutes.
JB has never furloughed...until they do of course. They’ve got 85 321NEO’s coming as growth starting this month as well as higher paying A220’s to replace the 190 starting next year. UPS has a lot of growth coming too with -8 orders and 767’s plus retirements really start to kick off in a couple of years so movement should be good at either. Id say you are very lucky if you’ve got the choice between the two!
Driving to work is nice. The variety of flying is appealing at Brown but commuting to ANC isn't.
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I’m still new to B6 so take everything I said with a grain of salt but I think it was more or less true. Your thread resonated with me because UPS is my hometown airline and I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t given the comparison some thought. I’m not interested in moving back home to Louisville but UPS was what I grew up knowing. Overall I’m really liking JB and think it’s a great time to get on with all the hiring we’re doing.
I think now that there is a CBA in place at JB, as time goes on it’s going to keep getting better much like a career at UPS has only gotten better and better over time.
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