CitationAir Unionizing
07-06-2011, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SevereClear
C-ya later, CA. It was nice knowing you guys. The new Cessna CEO will definitely hate this.
I wouldn't expect any CEO to "like it". After all, the pilot group basically called the management team a failure.
07-07-2011, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kritchlow
What would prompt you to say this? Do you work for CA? Is this just an opinion or based on some sort of inside info?
I wouldn't expect any CEO to "like it". After all, the pilot group basically called the management team a failure.
I wouldn't expect any CEO to "like it". After all, the pilot group basically called the management team a failure.
Union's will not cause any company to fail. It will always and only be management inadequacies (sp?) and their focus on fighting the Union instead of running and growing the company. See NJA example.
Sorry for the semi thread hijack.
07-07-2011, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SevereClear
C-ya later, CA. It was nice knowing you guys. The new Cessna CEO will definitely hate this.
07-07-2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kritchlow
What would prompt you to say this? Do you work for CA? Is this just an opinion or based on some sort of inside info?
I wouldn't expect any CEO to "like it". After all, the pilot group basically called the management team a failure.
I wouldn't expect any CEO to "like it". After all, the pilot group basically called the management team a failure.
It's simple math. Cessna is sucking wind already. CA has been a bleeding financial artery since its inception.
Time for them to cut the fat.
And I do not work for CA. I did years ago and left on great terms. I am just an outsider looking in at this point.
07-07-2011, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SevereClear
This will cost the company millions in scheduling efficiencies that will now be non-existent due to contract obligations on crew duty, etc.
It's simple math. Cessna is sucking wind already. CA has been a bleeding financial artery since its inception.
Time for them to cut the fat.
And I do not work for CA. I did years ago and left on great terms. I am just an outsider looking in at this point.
It's simple math. Cessna is sucking wind already. CA has been a bleeding financial artery since its inception.
Time for them to cut the fat.
And I do not work for CA. I did years ago and left on great terms. I am just an outsider looking in at this point.
I don't really know the behind the scenes financials, but.. Suppose CA loses $10M next year, but Cessna makes $20M from selling us airplanes? Did we lose money?
Again, I have no idea if that is happening, but my point is that nobody really knows how the accounting works.
In addition, if Cessna was going to "cut the fat", that would happen with or without a union.
I also doubt it will cost CA millions to negotiate a contract... That is unless they STILL pay their high priced union busting law firm during negotiations.
07-07-2011, 12:17 PM
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Cessna isn't stupid.
No way in HELL they're going to close CitationAir and dump dozens more newish used Citations onto the used aircraft market, further depressing used values and more importantly for Mother Textron, demand for new Citations.
No way in HELL they're going to close CitationAir and dump dozens more newish used Citations onto the used aircraft market, further depressing used values and more importantly for Mother Textron, demand for new Citations.
07-07-2011, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Cessna isn't stupid.
No way in HELL they're going to close CitationAir and dump dozens more newish used Citations onto the used aircraft market, further depressing used values and more importantly for Mother Textron, demand for new Citations.
No way in HELL they're going to close CitationAir and dump dozens more newish used Citations onto the used aircraft market, further depressing used values and more importantly for Mother Textron, demand for new Citations.
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