Jetblue and the PVC
03-29-2013, 11:29 AM
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Jetblue and the PVC
The latest email from the PVC is exactly why a CBA and a strong bargaining unit is required.
Jetblue used the previous PVC, known as the "fab 4", to push through the very language they are arguing against. Jetblue is trying to circumvent your ability to vote on scope and code share provisions, prevent the PVC from having legal representation, and change your work rules without your consent to negate any raises. If this doesnt wake you up to the reality of what Jetblue management is about then nothing will.
Jetblue used the previous PVC, known as the "fab 4", to push through the very language they are arguing against. Jetblue is trying to circumvent your ability to vote on scope and code share provisions, prevent the PVC from having legal representation, and change your work rules without your consent to negate any raises. If this doesnt wake you up to the reality of what Jetblue management is about then nothing will.
03-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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Direct quote from Joanna L. Geraghty.
Below is jetblues perspective on your pay and benefits.
"We're very mindful of ensuring we don't pay simply for longevity but that we pay for performance."
"And if you're at the top end of the pay scale, you have an opportunity to earn more if you're performing better. So really trying to do things differently and not fall into the same pitfalls that our competition has fallen into."
"Right. We're currently in the midst of meeting with our pilots, so it's not reflected in the 2013 costs. What we'd be looking at is 2014 costs. But again, we're literally day 2 into collaborating with our pilots around what those numbers should look like and we're going to ask for things in return so that we can try to offset some of the costs, those R&A [ph] cost but also the revenue front."
Below is jetblues perspective on your pay and benefits.
"We're very mindful of ensuring we don't pay simply for longevity but that we pay for performance."
"And if you're at the top end of the pay scale, you have an opportunity to earn more if you're performing better. So really trying to do things differently and not fall into the same pitfalls that our competition has fallen into."
"Right. We're currently in the midst of meeting with our pilots, so it's not reflected in the 2013 costs. What we'd be looking at is 2014 costs. But again, we're literally day 2 into collaborating with our pilots around what those numbers should look like and we're going to ask for things in return so that we can try to offset some of the costs, those R&A [ph] cost but also the revenue front."
03-29-2013, 01:22 PM
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If we go to a performance based pay scale, I want in my PEA that if my performance causes the company to go bankrupt, I can leave and take a $1 million severance. I mean, it works for upper managment, why not us, too?
Paying your crews shouldn't be called a "pitfall" that your competition fell into any more than buying gas for the planes should. It's part of the cost of flying airplanes.
Paying your crews shouldn't be called a "pitfall" that your competition fell into any more than buying gas for the planes should. It's part of the cost of flying airplanes.
03-29-2013, 01:26 PM
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Waiting for the anti-union and pro-managment dipsh**s to chime in and say, "If you're miserable, go some place else. ALPA did this to me at <insert regional carrier>."
Wake up everybody. Your organic growth is that A330-200 painted in Hawaiian Airlines colors...and quite possibly American Airlines colors, if the AMR/LCC merger doesn't go through!
Wake up everybody. Your organic growth is that A330-200 painted in Hawaiian Airlines colors...and quite possibly American Airlines colors, if the AMR/LCC merger doesn't go through!
03-29-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
Any hopes pilots have with the PVC sound like a pipe dream.
03-29-2013, 02:32 PM
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Jetblue and the PVC
It is a simple equations pay the pilots or we start leaving in groves. I for one will not sign anything that gives any scope away and if they don't pay better I will leave as soon as practicable. However, we need a CBA to move forward as a pilot group.
