Southwest hiring info
11-26-2014, 01:19 PM
#672
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Expect the Southwest application window to open very early 2015 -- looks like they will be revising their earlier projection of no hiring till summer 15. I'd expect to see some Spring 15 hiring as well as slow but steady hiring throughout 2015.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
11-26-2014, 04:52 PM
#673
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Originally Posted by Thunder1
Expect the Southwest application window to open very early 2015 -- looks like they will be revising their earlier projection of no hiring till summer 15. I'd expect to see some Spring 15 hiring as well as slow but steady hiring throughout 2015.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
11-27-2014, 12:15 AM
#674
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Originally Posted by Thunder1
Expect the Southwest application window to open very early 2015 -- looks like they will be revising their earlier projection of no hiring till summer 15. I'd expect to see some Spring 15 hiring as well as slow but steady hiring throughout 2015.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
Heard it directly from someone involved in the hiring process.
Also, new recency of experience requirements: Need to be actively flying 2 of the last 5 years. So, for those in the military in a staff job your last couple years don't waste your money renting a Cessna and flying around the flag pole. That used to be acceptable but not anymore. They are looking for 2 of the last 5 actively flying military aircraft or civilian part 121, 135, etc.
11-28-2014, 01:46 AM
#675
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It will be interesting moving forward to see if they have any problems recruiting given the announced flat fleet through at least 2018, non-industry standard reserve rules, lack of commutable trips, inability to "drop" trips, and high prerequisites to hire (type rating and PIC turbine). I suspect over the near term they won't, but they may be forced to go down the road of retention bonuses (like jetBlue did) as the pilot shortage deepens and upgrade times at the legacies come way down.
(Supposedly Delta is at around 2007 already. Imagine that... It's possible that someone who hadn't even started flying on 9/11 could be a Delta Captain!? Crazy!)
(Supposedly Delta is at around 2007 already. Imagine that... It's possible that someone who hadn't even started flying on 9/11 could be a Delta Captain!? Crazy!)
11-28-2014, 06:20 AM
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Quite possible and in fact very likely. What's this about an announced flat fleet growth through 2018?! I never heard of that, just through the end of 2015. That's impossible unless they're going to rob Peter to pay Paul wrt the "50 new international destinations" fluff that they've been spouting off about, which would be completely asinine to just giveaway domestic market share like that.
Personally I think they're just going to keep snagging up used NGs that are coming off lease for several years to come. At least I sure as hell hope so.
Personally I think they're just going to keep snagging up used NGs that are coming off lease for several years to come. At least I sure as hell hope so.
11-28-2014, 08:01 AM
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1% fleet growth would be about 7 planes. Roughly 10 pilots per ac and you're looking at 70 pilots plus another 150 for retirements in 2015. Throw in an extra week of vacation for a handful of guys and a few that will leave for greener pastures and 200-250 new hires starts to look like a fairly conservative number.
I also don't see SWA "announcing" fleet growth until AFTER they pick up any "new" used aircraft. All that would do is drive up the price.
I also don't see SWA "announcing" fleet growth until AFTER they pick up any "new" used aircraft. All that would do is drive up the price.
11-28-2014, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Well flattish... He said fleet growth in the single digit percentages after 2015. Figure 10% growth is 70 airplanes, so something less than that each year.
I'd be ecstatic if by flattish he actually means single digit growth percentage.
11-28-2014, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
It will be interesting moving forward to see if they have any problems recruiting given the announced flat fleet through at least 2018, non-industry standard reserve rules, lack of commutable trips, inability to "drop" trips, and high prerequisites to hire (type rating and PIC turbine). I suspect over the near term they won't, but they may be forced to go down the road of retention bonuses (like jetBlue did) as the pilot shortage deepens and upgrade times at the legacies come way down.
(Supposedly Delta is at around 2007 already. Imagine that... It's possible that someone who hadn't even started flying on 9/11 could be a Delta Captain!? Crazy!)
(Supposedly Delta is at around 2007 already. Imagine that... It's possible that someone who hadn't even started flying on 9/11 could be a Delta Captain!? Crazy!)
Could you elaborate on the non-industry leading reserve rules and not being able to drop trips?
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