e6bpilot

I call BS. Impossible to work that much and average 15 days off. Not a chance.

Thunder1

[QUOTE=Stitches;2189787]Right now we are losing around 7% of the new hires plus a handful of others to other airlines, mostly Delta, United, and FedEx.

Stitches,
Your info on our loss rate this year is WAY low. SWAPA put out an email last month stating that so far this year we have had OVER 10% of our new hires leave for greener pastures. At the time the message was put out we had 300+ new hires -- so over 30 have left in the first 7 months of the year.
Thunder

tacamoflyer

[QUOTE=Thunder1;2189972]

What he said ^^^^
Also, I personally know of a few with job offers who are waiting to resign here. If I know a few, there are many more.
Two things can help this problem:
Fix first year pay. It has got to come up to a level that matches or beats the legacy carriers.
Fix our retirement. Paying 10 percent out of pocket for our 401k is really hard to do when you are getting your sad first year pay squeezed by bills, buying uniforms, parking, insurance, and other expenses.

Chris99

People are "lined up around the block" to work at SWA because they have confidence in the pilots and SWAPA to negotiate an awesome contract. Don't let up until they give you what you deserve!

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lowflyer79

I'm looking for some guidance. As of now I own and operate an agricultural aviation business and looking to move into the airlines to finish out my flying career. I have 10,000+hrs tpic in ag aircraft but no 121 time(no degree either). Will a company like South West pick somebody like me up or will I need to go to the regionals and build 121 time and get a degree? Will having a type help if I don't have a degree?

Salukidawg

I think you're definitely going to need to fly for a regional for awhile. 10,000 tpic in cropdusters isn't going to carry the weight of someone with previous 121 experience. The good news is that nearly every Regional is hiring right now, so you should have your pick of where you want to go. Good luck.

ZapBrannigan

I disagree. There are 1000 blue suits and red ties with identical RJ resumes and all the same stories. Your experience sets you apart! You got this.

Dukeuno

I would say instead of going to fly part 121 that he gets his degree. I know SWA has hired some without it, but it usually because they have the Type (737) and are in some type of leadership role: checkairman, CP or DO.

sky80

I'm coming from the same angle, but do have a degree. I would think no recent training events and multi time would be negatives against you if you don't have those. The degree would be a mark against you also from my research. These could easily be fixed with a few years at a regional if you can stand the paycut and online classes.

My multi time is weak. I sold the 137 business and got on at a regional to build the 121 and multi time.

Jumping into a company like Southwest without any 135 experience or 121 would be a huge undertaking in my opinion. You would be competing against people that could walk into the job ready to go. I felt like I was playing catch up on many aspects during training and the first 100 hrs on the job vs the other guys coming from similar flying. Working in the system, radio, charts, and instrument procedures, autopilot, etc. I was good at flying the actual plane though, since that's what I've always done with no autopilot and so many takeoffs and landings.

Why are you wanting to bail on the 137 business?

Southwest is where I want to end up also. Several of the Captains I fly with say I would fit in perfect there with my personality and the way I fly. Hoping I get the chance to see in the next few years.

Doc1010

Having read through the Southwest threads and the "Who's Been Hired" thread, I'm still a bit curious as to the more recent ladies and gentlemen hired into Southwest. There are a few posts that have some individual statistics, but it's a bit few and far between. Is anybody in the know about what has been favorable to the hiring boards?

Since I started in aviation and considered flying 121, my number one choice has always been to fly for Southwest. As life typically does, many circumstances prevented me from pursuing 121 and kept me in the corporate environment. I'm a Midwest guy, and flying out of MDW would be absolutely perfect for my family and myself.
I am currently flying Gulfstreams for a Fortune 500 company, which is a wonderful place to be but has many of the limitations common to part 91 departments. I have a few types, around 4400 total time, 3500 of which is PIC, of which 1600 is turbine PIC. The remainder is a mish-mash of jet SIC, twin and single stuff from the "cutting the teeth" stages, and dual given from the instructor years. I have a four year degree outside of aviation and a clean record, both personally and in aviation. I also was fortunate (?) to slip in with little trouble for the company career fair this September.

Anywho, long-winded, my apologies, but I'm curious what anybody's thoughts are on my position here. I'd love (spelled luv here?) to be on with SW, and I've received the blessing from the family to change if it is ever offered. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

-Doc