Who's flying the 747-8?
03-27-2015, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama
Pretty sure Atlas has more on order.
Atlas also has an additional 13 -8 options. Bill Flynn said he intends for those (didn't say how many) to be replace some 400's.
I'm not so sure they'll be replacements anytime soon as Atlas has pulled their last two BCF's out of the desert for additional charter work this spring.
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03-30-2015, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
As long as you can stay 50 miles away from TS and don't try to explain to ATC you're too light to climb to a higher altitude.
03-30-2015, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
...I'm not so sure they'll be replacements anytime soon as Atlas has pulled their last two BCF's out of the desert for additional charter work this spring.
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I was told by someone who would know that retrofitting it to the -400F is not a viable option. I do not see why it would be such a major project, but I just drive the bus.
05-14-2015, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
As long as you can stay 50 miles away from TS and don't try to explain to ATC you're too light to climb to a higher altitude.
05-14-2015, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
Aside from Lufthansa's solitary 747-8 that I see every day @ LAX, I can't say I've seen another -8 in passenger service.
Who's flying the airplane?
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05-15-2015, 06:33 AM
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The 50 miles from TS is an ice crystal icing problem with the GE engines. They've tweaked the engine software to reduce the altitudes where this is a problem.
I guess Boeing never thought people would fly the -8 empty. If you're very light and very high and going slow (.81-.82) the thrust is so far back the IP bleeds can't provide enough air. "System logic" opens the HP bleeds. But the system wasn't designed to use high pressure and high temperature air in cruise. So the pneumatic system over temps, shuts down and leaves you with no bleed air for pressurization and smoke control.
I guess Boeing never thought people would fly the -8 empty. If you're very light and very high and going slow (.81-.82) the thrust is so far back the IP bleeds can't provide enough air. "System logic" opens the HP bleeds. But the system wasn't designed to use high pressure and high temperature air in cruise. So the pneumatic system over temps, shuts down and leaves you with no bleed air for pressurization and smoke control.
05-15-2015, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
The 50 miles from TS is an ice crystal icing problem with the GE engines. They've tweaked the engine software to reduce the altitudes where this is a problem.
I guess Boeing never thought people would fly the -8 empty. If you're very light and very high and going slow (.81-.82) the thrust is so far back the IP bleeds can't provide enough air. "System logic" opens the HP bleeds. But the system wasn't designed to use high pressure and high temperature air in cruise. So the pneumatic system over temps, shuts down and leaves you with no bleed air for pressurization and smoke control.
I guess Boeing never thought people would fly the -8 empty. If you're very light and very high and going slow (.81-.82) the thrust is so far back the IP bleeds can't provide enough air. "System logic" opens the HP bleeds. But the system wasn't designed to use high pressure and high temperature air in cruise. So the pneumatic system over temps, shuts down and leaves you with no bleed air for pressurization and smoke control.
05-15-2015, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
So, with the 737, 787, and now the new 747-8, I think it is time to update the "If it's not Boeing, I not going" phrase.
Putting a scotch tape salesman in charge of (what used to be) one of the world's great companies has turned into a tragedy.
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