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Old 11-19-2015, 10:32 AM
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Do the number of rotor blades increase with each successive compressor stage in a turbine engine?
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:19 PM
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Do the number of rotor blades increase with each successive compressor stage in a turbine engine?
If you're meaning more blades w/each rotor, yes.
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:30 AM
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Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks. Do you possibly have a good resource for this information that I could explore?

It was surprisingly difficult to get a straight answer about a seemingly simple question. I know that the volume gets smaller as the air is compressed and the blades get smaller but I wasn't sure how the compressor continued to further and further compress the air.

So just to sum up, the way the compressor continues to further compress the air as it progresses from one rotor to the next is by increasing the amount of blades per rotor. - Is that correct?

I know that most turbine engines have multiple compressors which rotate at different speeds.
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Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks. Do you possibly have a good resource for this information that I could explore?

It was surprisingly difficult to get a straight answer about a seemingly simple question. I know that the volume gets smaller as the air is compressed and the blades get smaller but I wasn't sure how the compressor continued to further and further compress the air.

So just to sum up, the way the compressor continues to further compress the air as it progresses from one rotor to the next is by increasing the amount of blades per rotor. - Is that correct?

I know that most turbine engines have multiple compressors which rotate at different speeds.
The core of a jet motor is like a venturi tube. Not only does the number blades increase, the blades get shorter as the space toward the end of the compressor case gets tighter before the diffuser. Remember, a turbine drives a compressor spool.

You can look at any cutaway and see how the compressor case gets more narrow and the blades get more numerous.
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The core of a jet motor is like a venturi tube.
Not to sound pedantic but it is a jet engine and not a motor.
Motors are electric (and in some cases hydraulic).

Saying motor is like dragging your nails across a chalk board for me.
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Not to sound pedantic but it is a jet engine and not a motor.
Motors are electric (and in some cases hydraulic).

Saying motor is like dragging your nails across a chalk board for me.
For practical purposes, the two terms are synonymous in common usage.

Traditionally in engineering circles, a motor is a device which converts energy to motion. An engine is a device (motor) which converts thermal energy to motion.

So an engine is a special case of motor, and it's probably OK to call it a motor because it is one.
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Not to sound pedantic but it is a jet engine and not a motor.
Motors are electric (and in some cases hydraulic).

Saying motor is like dragging your nails across a chalk board for me.
Every maintainer on an AF ramp calls it a motor. I still call it that to this day flying the line. Engine/motor...so what.
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So what do you call that procedure to avoid a hot start where you leave the start valve open and the fuel valve off? What's that called?
It's called dry jet engine.
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A motor is different than an engine, that's why they are NOT interchangeable. A motor uses mechanical power generated externally, an engine creates it. When you "dry motor" you are using mechanical power (pneumatic or electrical) to turn the spool.

Nails on chalkboard, indeed.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
For practical purposes, the two terms are synonymous in common usage.
Here's an interesting essay on the historical use of those two terms:

World Wide Words: Engine and Motor
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