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Old 03-27-2012, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default UAX employees get seniority jump on mainline!

Here's the deal...Express guy lists on UAX flt operated by his company he shows up as an "SA0X". Puts him ahead of mainline guy. That's not the problem. Here's the problem. If he lists round trip and the return flt is a mainline UA flt he still shows up as an "SA0X" on the mainline flt and goes ahead of any mainline guys not using vac passes. Saw it for myself. Mesa guy is #2 on the list behind a P.S. Stby. The other 20 or so UAL employees w/1986-1997 seniority are below him. Even he was baffled by this. Other commuters are seeing this happen as well. Being Spring Break I wonder how many UA families have been left behind/spit up because of this. Spoke to union rep about it today. I politely confronted the Mesa guy and he acknowledged that it was not right. UAX guys need to list each way in these situations. This needs to be fixed ASAP!
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I saw this happen with a COEX F/A a couple of days ago. Full out of MIA with several "mainline" passriders standing by. The agent had to offer the Express FA a seat before any mainline passriders! I asked the agent why and she said it was the "boarding priority". I had told the FA that the jumpseat was available and I'd appreciate it if she'd use it so I could get more passriders on. She seemed a bit "ticked", but took the JS................. Funny, but at Express, they ALL go on before me. ????????
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Here's the deal...Express guy lists on UAX flt operated by his company he shows up as an "SA0X". Puts him ahead of mainline guy. That's not the problem. Here's the problem. If he lists round trip and the return flt is a mainline UA flt he still shows up as an "SA0X" on the mainline flt and goes ahead of any mainline guys not using vac passes. Saw it for myself. Mesa guy is #2 on the list behind a P.S. Stby. The other 20 or so UAL employees w/1986-1997 seniority are below him. Even he was baffled by this. Other commuters are seeing this happen as well. Being Spring Break I wonder how many UA families have been left behind/spit up because of this. Spoke to union rep about it today. I politely confronted the Mesa guy and he acknowledged that it was not right. UAX guys need to list each way in these situations. This needs to be fixed ASAP!
Another, glitch when listing for the jumpseat...You can not list for the jumpseat on a mainline flight if the itinerary has an express flight in it...

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Here's the deal...Express guy lists on UAX flt operated by his company he shows up as an "SA0X". Puts him ahead of mainline guy. That's not the problem. Here's the problem. If he lists round trip and the return flt is a mainline UA flt he still shows up as an "SA0X" on the mainline flt and goes ahead of any mainline guys not using vac passes. Saw it for myself. Mesa guy is #2 on the list behind a P.S. Stby. The other 20 or so UAL employees w/1986-1997 seniority are below him. Even he was baffled by this. Other commuters are seeing this happen as well. Being Spring Break I wonder how many UA families have been left behind/spit up because of this. Spoke to union rep about it today. I politely confronted the Mesa guy and he acknowledged that it was not right. UAX guys need to list each way in these situations. This needs to be fixed ASAP!
Does anybody have a list of the boarding codes or is there a simple way to interpret them? "SA0X"
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Does anybody have a list of the boarding codes or is there a simple way to interpret them? "SA0X"
Here is what I have from the PSS Update from February:

Vacation pass for co-workers & retirees SA0V
Leisure for co-workers SA1P
Leisure for retirees SA2R
Unaccompanied eligible riders traveling on vacation pass SA3V
Unaccompanied eligible riders traveling on leisure pass SA4P
Adult children on buddy pass SA4P
Express carrier eligible pass riders SA5X
Extended family on buddy pass SA6F
Regular buddy pass SA7U
Service charge waived pass SA9W

[PS/SA][#][Letter][YEAR]

Example: PS5B05 Employee on business travel 2005 Travel Date
Example: SA1P90 Employee leisure travel 1990 Travel Date

PS = Positive Space
SA = Space Available

0-9 Highest to lowest priority

B - Business
E - Emergency
V - Vacation
P - Personal/Leisure
R - Retiree
S - Temporary Short-Term Employee
X - Regional Partner (United Express)
A - Star Alliance Partner
F - Extended Family Buddy
U - Unaccompanied Regular Buddy
Z - Other Airline (ZED)
W - Service Charge Waived

Note: there are also four additional letter codes associated with PS deadhead travel (PS0) for crewmembers

A - Flight Attendant
C - Captain
F - First Officer
R - Associated with reserve FAs and FOs under certain DH circumstances


FYI, from what I understand, Express employees will show highest priority on Express (SA0X) but their regular lower priority on mainline. In addition, when you use employeeRES to list for flights, expanding the pass rider list will show you where your priority will fall on that list using various options and the priority codes for each person listed.
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Our Union put a message about this last week telling us that it is incorrect and we need to speak up. I enjoy the benefits your company gives us and will bring this up if it occurs on my listings. There is an agreement and it needs to be respected.
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Here's the deal...Express guy lists on UAX flt operated by his company he shows up as an "SA0X". Puts him ahead of mainline guy. That's not the problem. Here's the problem. If he lists round trip and the return flt is a mainline UA flt he still shows up as an "SA0X" on the mainline flt and goes ahead of any mainline guys not using vac passes. Saw it for myself. Mesa guy is #2 on the list behind a P.S. Stby. The other 20 or so UAL employees w/1986-1997 seniority are below him. Even he was baffled by this. Other commuters are seeing this happen as well. Being Spring Break I wonder how many UA families have been left behind/spit up because of this. Spoke to union rep about it today. I politely confronted the Mesa guy and he acknowledged that it was not right. UAX guys need to list each way in these situations. This needs to be fixed ASAP!
Gee, this same thing happened in reverse a few years ago when UAL pilots were getting the Jumpseat ahead of some OO pilots on OO metal (of course the seats were paid for by UAL, but that is a diffent debate) due to computer programming issues. I remember getting RIPPED by a few OO Captains when I jumpseated, and passed a piece of paper saying that we were going to be denied the Jumpseat if we didn't fix the problem....which of course we have no control over.

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Our Union put a message about this last week telling us that it is incorrect and we need to speak up. I enjoy the benefits your company gives us and will bring this up if it occurs on my listings. There is an agreement and it needs to be respected.
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