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04-24-2014, 02:43 PM
#1171
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You guys have to remember that just a few years ago delta was in deep trouble. Crappy service, crappy planes, crappy everything. They turned it around and so will ual.
If you are in the pool count your blessings, there are a lot of people that really wish they were in your shoes.
If you are in the pool count your blessings, there are a lot of people that really wish they were in your shoes.
04-24-2014, 03:30 PM
#1173
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Originally Posted by myoface
You guys have to remember that just a few years ago delta was in deep trouble. Crappy service, crappy planes, crappy everything. They turned it around and so will ual.
If you are in the pool count your blessings, there are a lot of people that really wish they were in your shoes.
If you are in the pool count your blessings, there are a lot of people that really wish they were in your shoes.
04-24-2014, 03:49 PM
#1174
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: CA CR7
Posts: 18
This is ALL part of the game...remember, DAL is a few years ahead of UAL as far as "post-merger success", and the AA/US merger has only just begun...their challenges are coming, I assure you. I'm happy to be here and looking forward to this summer...we'll be ok.
04-24-2014, 03:56 PM
#1175
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Originally Posted by Fresh
But every other major airline posted a profit, if not a record profit. 
The part that really matters that no one has mentioned from the report toward the bottom.
UAL generated $694 million of operating cash flow in the first quarter.
So United lost money on paper, but then there is almost $700M more in the bank than there was previously.
This is normal. It's because we are taking new airplanes, and then heavily depreciating them in the early years using something called MACRS, modified-accelerated cost recovery system. We are just doing so more aggressively than AMR, DAL, etc.
Remember that while on paper DAL is earning more, they are also paying more in taxes to the government. So it hurts their cash position.
Forget the profit or loss numbers. Watch the cashflow. It's a better indicator of financial performance in companies that have large asset classes that can be depreciated on different schedules.
04-24-2014, 04:26 PM
#1176
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Posts: 189
Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
Doesn't mean anything really.
The part that really matters that no one has mentioned from the report toward the bottom.
UAL generated $694 million of operating cash flow in the first quarter.
So United lost money on paper, but then there is almost $700M more in the bank than there was previously.
This is normal. It's because we are taking new airplanes, and then heavily depreciating them in the early years using something called MACRS, modified-accelerated cost recovery system. We are just doing so more aggressively than AMR, DAL, etc.
Remember that while on paper DAL is earning more, they are also paying more in taxes to the government. So it hurts their cash position.
Forget the profit or loss numbers. Watch the cashflow. It's a better indicator of financial performance in companies that have large asset classes that can be depreciated on different schedules.
The part that really matters that no one has mentioned from the report toward the bottom.
UAL generated $694 million of operating cash flow in the first quarter.
So United lost money on paper, but then there is almost $700M more in the bank than there was previously.
This is normal. It's because we are taking new airplanes, and then heavily depreciating them in the early years using something called MACRS, modified-accelerated cost recovery system. We are just doing so more aggressively than AMR, DAL, etc.
Remember that while on paper DAL is earning more, they are also paying more in taxes to the government. So it hurts their cash position.
Forget the profit or loss numbers. Watch the cashflow. It's a better indicator of financial performance in companies that have large asset classes that can be depreciated on different schedules.
04-24-2014, 06:01 PM
#1179
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 424
Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
Doesn't mean anything really.
The part that really matters that no one has mentioned from the report toward the bottom.
UAL generated $694 million of operating cash flow in the first quarter.
So United lost money on paper, but then there is almost $700M more in the bank than there was previously.
This is normal. It's because we are taking new airplanes, and then heavily depreciating them in the early years using something called MACRS, modified-accelerated cost recovery system. We are just doing so more aggressively than AMR, DAL, etc.
Remember that while on paper DAL is earning more, they are also paying more in taxes to the government. So it hurts their cash position.
Forget the profit or loss numbers. Watch the cashflow. It's a better indicator of financial performance in companies that have large asset classes that can be depreciated on different schedules.
The part that really matters that no one has mentioned from the report toward the bottom.
UAL generated $694 million of operating cash flow in the first quarter.
So United lost money on paper, but then there is almost $700M more in the bank than there was previously.
This is normal. It's because we are taking new airplanes, and then heavily depreciating them in the early years using something called MACRS, modified-accelerated cost recovery system. We are just doing so more aggressively than AMR, DAL, etc.
Remember that while on paper DAL is earning more, they are also paying more in taxes to the government. So it hurts their cash position.
Forget the profit or loss numbers. Watch the cashflow. It's a better indicator of financial performance in companies that have large asset classes that can be depreciated on different schedules.
Is that why the stock price tanked? Not arguing with the concept of your claim, but I do really believe there is a problem there. Hope the board figures out a plan soon, and I won't spend my profit sharing money yet either
04-24-2014, 06:05 PM
#1180
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Position: A320 Captain
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
Is that why the stock price tanked? Not arguing with the concept of your claim, but I do really believe there is a problem there. Hope the board figures out a plan soon, and I won't spend my profit sharing money yet either
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