intrepidcv11

At 99.9% of world's airliners you would be fired for such pathetic planning. At UAL you would be considered an innovater. What a wonderful way to navigate and bandaid a pathetic failure to reach a JCBA w/ the FA's.

nopac6

Man! You sure nailed that one on the head!

Dave Fitzgerald

So.....let me look into my crystal ball.....see if I get this right.....SFO and LAX 777 bumps. Expanded 787 flying in both SFO and LAX. Bumps most likely to happen after the fence comes down. Parking of 747's in the fall. Looks like a lot of bumping into the west coast 787.

West coast is senior and getting more senior for widebodies. (787 doesn't count for purposes of this discussion.)

Massive amounts of training in both fleets which can't possibly be done in time for the spring.....wait for it.....all at a time when the sims will be moved to TK and possibly not available??

Wow, can I get a promotion for this kind of planning??

Oh, but wait there's more! We have 777-300ER's coming next Dec, 2016?? To fly what? Expand 787 flying....but we seem to have traded 787 orders for those 300ER's????

Have I got it?

CALFO

once the fence comes down (or sooner, if l-cal pilots don't bid it), the west coast 777 pilots will come over voluntarily. Whomever is unfortunate enough to be left on the 777 next summer will probably fly domestic transcons to Ewr, maybe with a Ewr-Lhr turn built in to 5 day trip. Don't rule out an additional city for the 777 to fly out of west coast. Point is, massive training is not necessary.

gettinbumped

You called it. CDG goes to 777

Dave Fitzgerald

Spin, spin, spin. Just like IAH won't have to bump guppy's...largely removing the 777 from the pacific is the first step to downsizing the entire region. SYD is on it's way out already. Run away and hide, don't compete. Management has opened the door for American and Delta on routs we used to own. Now they are keeping the door open. Come on on in!

In the not too distant future, I see abandoning most of the Pan Am routes, to our Star Alliance partners, again....


The following report is from the System Schedule Committee's Manpower Subcommittee

The System Schedule Committee briefed the MEC in July on the general planned shift in 787-9 flying from IAH to the West Coast in spring 2016. The company has now released details of this plan. The effect on Staffing has yet to be fully determined but there are a few things we do know:

· In IAH, the manpower on the 767 and 777 is still in place for the return of routes that the 787 will be flying over the winter.
· In SFO, SYD and TPE will shift from the 777 to the 787 year-round. HND and ICN will shift seasonally for 4 months and 3 months, respectively. SFO 777 will also see a new CDG route along with the possibility of additional tags, W-trips and possibly some future domestic flying to make up for the loss of block hours.
· In LAX, the shift of SYD and LHR from the 777 to the 787 is more drastic, leaving just HNL with a W and possible future domestic routes to make up some block hours.

The company has stated it will monitor the block hour change and the attrition from LAX and SFO 777 due to Vacancy Bids and retirements over the coming months and, if necessary, make some adjustments with displacements by late fall/winter. These issues will be discussed with the company at the regular SSC meeting next week.

ugleeual

777ERs going to EWR...