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I'll skip response to the scab bashing responses that I had lined up.
Alot of airline pilots are spoiled, self-indulgent, holier-than-thou, Type-A personalities that think that they should be paid alot of money for only showing up 15 days per month. The job isn't that hard but they put themselves on some sort of pedestal thinking the American public should pay whatever they demand. (I see the blood boiling..) They feel it is unsafe to fly a 9 hour flight with less than 3 pilots. Relief pilot? Pathetic!! (Thank God our military has guys that think that's an easy day with 2 pilots).
As far as 'scabs',... These airline pilots don't care if Pilot A (scab) was helping his mom make ends meet, has his disabled inlaws living with him, his daughter had MS and needed insurance on top of all the other normal pilot bills. They don't care about those extras. They had the mentality of a frat. Either you follow us to the edge of the cliff or we're going to make the rest of your life hell. No excuses.
Where they willing to help out Pilot A with his hardship? Heck no, 'cuz it didn't benefit them. Marching in front of the airport helped them. It's easy to side with the group and alienate the members that didn't join the group mentallity. Kind of like a grade school playground. That just shows how shallow and self serving alot of these scab haters are.
Now, their willingness to stick together on the scab-hater-hotline highlights their ignorance. Groups of people that are engaged in a certain behaviors (right or wrong) tend to congregate. This is an attempt to justify, to themselves, that their actions are justified and serve the greater good.
Bottom line is that the scab haters will always be unhappy people trying to blame their situation on someone else's actions from 20 years ago. "Scabs" will have to endure their childish antics and suffer in the long run.
BTW - I am not a scab. Have a nice major job and would never look at a 'list' prior to allowing someone on my jumpseat. You're all welcome! Even you scab haters.
divided we get picked off one by one as we bicker with each other over whose if bigger...
all of us know the pros (15+ days off, decent pay) and cons (low seniority, crappy starting pay, chance of furlough/strike) before we got here. those that didn't were either too lazy to research the field or hid behind rose-colored glasses. both deserve the pain that comes their way.
if you are ill at ease with the cons of this career, do not enter/get out now. if you want to make sure you can always pay the bills, rain or shine, a recent jobs report said that Uncle Sam is hiring.
by scabbing your are doing 2 things: helping the company last a little longer in their union-busting efforts and helping keep the rest of us from getting that better contract that we deserve.
yes, unions are sometimes a necessary evil, but by in large, they are the best thing an average worker can have happen to them.
I'll skip response to the scab bashing responses that I had lined up.
Alot of airline pilots are spoiled, self-indulgent, holier-than-thou, Type-A personalities that think that they should be paid alot of money for only showing up 15 days per month. The job isn't that hard but they put themselves on some sort of pedestal thinking the American public should pay whatever they demand. (I see the blood boiling..) They feel it is unsafe to fly a 9 hour flight with less than 3 pilots. Relief pilot? Pathetic!! (Thank God our military has guys that think that's an easy day with 2 pilots).
As far as 'scabs',... These airline pilots don't care if Pilot A (scab) was helping his mom make ends meet, has his disabled inlaws living with him, his daughter had MS and needed insurance on top of all the other normal pilot bills. They don't care about those extras. They had the mentality of a frat. Either you follow us to the edge of the cliff or we're going to make the rest of your life hell. No excuses.
Where they willing to help out Pilot A with his hardship? Heck no, 'cuz it didn't benefit them. Marching in front of the airport helped them. It's easy to side with the group and alienate the members that didn't join the group mentallity. Kind of like a grade school playground. That just shows how shallow and self serving alot of these scab haters are.
Now, their willingness to stick together on the scab-hater-hotline highlights their ignorance. Groups of people that are engaged in a certain behaviors (right or wrong) tend to congregate. This is an attempt to justify, to themselves, that their actions are justified and serve the greater good.
Bottom line is that the scab haters will always be unhappy people trying to blame their situation on someone else's actions from 20 years ago. "Scabs" will have to endure their childish antics and suffer in the long run.
BTW - I am not a scab. Have a nice major job and would never look at a 'list' prior to allowing someone on my jumpseat. You're all welcome! Even you scab haters.
Hi Spanky,
What is it that has made you so unhappy today?
I thought the relief pilot "thing" was a requirement of the FAA, not just imposed by us pathetic scab haters? I take it that you were in the military? If so, thank you very much for your service.
Sincerely,
fbh
P.S. You are more than welcome to ride my jump-seat anytime,...as long as you keep your mouth shut and your moronic rantings to yourself.
P.P.S. I'm a very happy person, ask any of my friends.
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Last edited by frozenboxhauler : 12-13-2007 at 12:47 AM.
I'll summarize what could be a long response:
-The guy was an A##
-You should have reported him to your jumpseat coordinator
-You should get his name out to everyone so the next time he tries to jumpseat we can have him kiss our %^&*(that FO too) -We need a list of guys like this so we can teach these 'pompus/a##h0le captains' that we're all in this game together-I agree to the formallity of introducing yourself, etc (play the game,...)
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God forbid you ever go on strike. That is the most powerful tool a union has and the threat of it is often the only motivation for management to negotiate in good faith. If management can count on the likes of people like you they can break a union and put pilots in subservient hell. Remember Continental? Anytime you are in full negotiations you should be saving as much as you can for this eventuality. Everyone in the union will have different desires, hopes, etc. But in the end, should you ever be called on to strike everyone must walk. Even though they never crossed a line, VA and Skybus pilots willing to fly for 60-80k a year as a Captain does nothing to further the industry and help restore the lost wages and benefits of the past six years. They in essence act like a scab because the reset the bar lower rather than raising it.
I would think if you have parents living with you they have SS, disabled individuals would collect as well. Hopefully you have a wife who can have a job.
What was the point of your post anyways except to flame people?
I'll skip response to the scab bashing responses that I had lined up.
Alot of airline pilots are spoiled, self-indulgent, holier-than-thou, Type-A personalities that think that they should be paid alot of money for only showing up 15 days per month. The job isn't that hard but they put themselves on some sort of pedestal thinking the American public should pay whatever they demand. (I see the blood boiling..) They feel it is unsafe to fly a 9 hour flight with less than 3 pilots. Relief pilot? Pathetic!! (Thank God our military has guys that think that's an easy day with 2 pilots).
As far as 'scabs',... These airline pilots don't care if Pilot A (scab) was helping his mom make ends meet, has his disabled inlaws living with him, his daughter had MS and needed insurance on top of all the other normal pilot bills. They don't care about those extras. They had the mentality of a frat. Either you follow us to the edge of the cliff or we're going to make the rest of your life hell. No excuses.
Where they willing to help out Pilot A with his hardship? Heck no, 'cuz it didn't benefit them. Marching in front of the airport helped them. It's easy to side with the group and alienate the members that didn't join the group mentallity. Kind of like a grade school playground. That just shows how shallow and self serving alot of these scab haters are.
Now, their willingness to stick together on the scab-hater-hotline highlights their ignorance. Groups of people that are engaged in a certain behaviors (right or wrong) tend to congregate. This is an attempt to justify, to themselves, that their actions are justified and serve the greater good.
Bottom line is that the scab haters will always be unhappy people trying to blame their situation on someone else's actions from 20 years ago. "Scabs" will have to endure their childish antics and suffer in the long run.
BTW - I am not a scab. Have a nice major job and would never look at a 'list' prior to allowing someone on my jumpseat. You're all welcome! Even you scab haters.
Seriously, are there pilots at majors who don't have a few months salary in savings for just such an event? If not, don't come out with some freaking sob story about not making ends meet. You make enough money to absorb a strike. Period. Be an adult and manage your damn money. There is NO excuse for selling your profession down the river.
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