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Old 11-10-2008, 10:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Delta F/As union drive!

For those of you that are Pilots at DL and NW, would you support your F/As by wearing an AFA pin on your tie or putting an AFa tag on your bag?

Yes or No, and please why...


P.S. I'm not asking you to, I just want to know how much support our pilots could actually provide us.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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For those of you that are Pilots at DL and NW, would you support your F/As by wearing an AFA pin on your tie or putting an AFa tag on your bag?

Yes or No, and please why...


P.S. I'm not asking you to, I just want to know how much support our pilots could actually provide us.
I'm not a big supporter of unionizing the FAs.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would wear an AFA tie tack. I believe our F/A's should have an organized voice with the company. Over the years, it has appeared that the company often arbitrarily changed work rules for the F/A's and I feel that they should have more of a voice in the process.

I want my company to flurish, but "labor" should be a stakeholder in the future of our company.

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Old 11-10-2008, 10:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm not a big supporter of unionizing the FAs.
How do you feel about the pilot group being represented by ALPA?
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think if you saw the attitude and service given you would not want a union.
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I'm definitely not trying to stir the pot here, but my response would have to be no. Why? My rational is simply this. The FA's at Delta have already voiced their support (minority), or lack of (majority), of becoming a unionized organization. My support by wearing an AFA pin, or anything for that matter, would go against the MAJORITY of FA's who have already voted on several occasions not to become members of AFA. I'll support the FA's as a whole, but you'll have to decide this one, again, on your own IMHO.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think one thing I learned over the last 25 years at NWA is to stay away from the union affairs of other employee groups. In 1998 we gave covert help to AMFA in their escape from the IAM... We came to regret that for reasons too numerous and complicated for the current venue of discussion. Suffice it to say that the internal choices of another employee group are generally best left alone by the pilots. Total neutrality.
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I think one thing I learned over the last 25 years at NWA is to stay away from the union affairs of other employee groups. In 1998 we gave covert help to AMFA in their escape from the IAM... We came to regret that for reasons too numerous and complicated for the current venue of discussion. Suffice it to say that the internal choices of another employee group are generally best left alone by the pilots. Total neutrality.
Sounds like good advise..... best of luck to them!
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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No I would not support AFA at Delta. AFA has been less than useless and possibly destructive at every carrier I have ever worked. Delta, I believe, has a superior culture due to the lack of heavy union presence and I would like to keep it that way. Before you call me a hypocrite, yes I'm a long time ALPA member but believe it is a necessary evil to endure primarily for the betterment of safety. AFA is in no way comparable to ALPA in purpose or merit.
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My answer to the OP's question ... no. What a second ... HELL NO!

I am not for unionizing the FAs. And I will not get into a discussion why I'm not.

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