TWA Pilots vs. ALPA in DFR suit
07-15-2011, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
If you are a non-ALPA pilot because you are grandfathered in, that's one thing.
If you are a non-ALPA pilot because your pilot group throws ALPA out the door, that's one thing.
However - if you, as an individual pilot, refuse to pay your ALPA assessments, ALPA can place you in "poor standing" and eventually require the company to terminate you. Naturally, ALPA will not represent you at your termination hearing. It will not happen overnight, but it can happen if the LEC wants to force the issue.
If you are a non-ALPA pilot because your pilot group throws ALPA out the door, that's one thing.
However - if you, as an individual pilot, refuse to pay your ALPA assessments, ALPA can place you in "poor standing" and eventually require the company to terminate you. Naturally, ALPA will not represent you at your termination hearing. It will not happen overnight, but it can happen if the LEC wants to force the issue.
07-15-2011, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
True, but what is Delta Air Lines going to do if all 12,000+ refuse to pay any special assessment for the TWA debacle?
Personally, I would love to see all 12,000 refuse to pay just to see the Herndon hand wringing.
07-15-2011, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
True, but what is Delta Air Lines going to do if all 12,000+ refuse to pay any special assessment for the TWA debacle?
How much $ did ALPA loose in the court ruling against its own employees this year? Approx $1.9 million.
07-15-2011, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hetman
Research the history and facts you attempt to apply in favor of your position.
07-15-2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
That is true. If damages come down hard, they won't have to try it will happen on its own.
Tru dat.
Our wide ranging discussions of scope, DFR, DPA, donuts, quarterly reports, fuel hedging, management of expectations, teh intraweb, and what not...all conversations that might be outside of what your typical line pilot might engage in, especially ones with families, Reserve/Guard gigs, side businesses, good golf games, etc.
BUT, take one more penny out of their paycheck, and you will have their FULL attention, and not in a good way.
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07-15-2011, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Karnak
No need. All I need is a jury who will see things my way. History, facts, circumstances don't matter if you can sway most of a jury.
Carl
07-15-2011, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Karnak
In a related story, OJ found "not guilty" of murder...
07-15-2011, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty
I think regional pilots represented by ALPA (Comair, etc) have a huge lawsuit for mis-representation and lack of representation as well.
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