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12-07-2016, 08:37 AM
#72
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Trump is anti union and believes that American wages are too high. He's all concerned about those A'mercan jobs. NAI is hiring pilots for US domiciles so...you get where i'm going with this right? Yes, we have to try but i'm not holding my breath on this one.
12-07-2016, 09:26 AM
#73
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Trump is anti union and believes that American wages are too high. He's all concerned about those A'mercan jobs. NAI is hiring pilots for US domiciles so...you get where i'm going with this right? Yes, we have to try but i'm not holding my breath on this one.
12-07-2016, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Anti union? I have yet to see any news on this claim... can you give some examples?
https://www.thenation.com/article/no...his-own-hotel/
12-07-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Anti union? I have yet to see any news on this claim... can you give some examples?
12-07-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
12-07-2016, 10:54 AM
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The way I see Trump and unions playing out is like fighting with your brother. Totally cool to get into a fist fight with your brother (US company vs US labor), but once some other kid tries to mess with your family (jobs going overseas), you forget about the last fight you had with him and let it be known you got his back. At least I hope this is how it plays out.
12-07-2016, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
It gets really old listening to pilots like you who blame ALPA instead of dealing with reality.
Guess what? We live in a capitalistic democratic society in which the average person makes $50k, dislikes unions and hates airlines even more and you think ALPA-PAC is ineffective. WRONG! We are outgunned and most pilots don't even like the fact that they are dependent upon their union for making a decent living.
But please let us know when you figure out your majic political solution. I for one am all ears and wait with unbridled anticipation for your cure for all that ails the piloting profession.
Guess what? We live in a capitalistic democratic society in which the average person makes $50k, dislikes unions and hates airlines even more and you think ALPA-PAC is ineffective. WRONG! We are outgunned and most pilots don't even like the fact that they are dependent upon their union for making a decent living.
But please let us know when you figure out your majic political solution. I for one am all ears and wait with unbridled anticipation for your cure for all that ails the piloting profession.
The hidden agenda won the day for NAI. NAI out lobbied US pilots by appealing to the hidden agenda of the current administration.
12-07-2016, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
And that attitude amongst the 70-80% who wont cough up a dime is why.
Did you even go so far as to write/email/call your reps on NAI? Don't need to answer, it doesn't matter. Point is can you honestly say to yourself you tried? Facebook reposts don't count.
Did you even go so far as to write/email/call your reps on NAI? Don't need to answer, it doesn't matter. Point is can you honestly say to yourself you tried? Facebook reposts don't count.
We got out hustled by NAI who has less than a thousand pilots and who wrote zero letters or emails. It's like fighting a ghost. They aren't here, no picket signs, no presence, yet they won.
12-07-2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
What gets old is listening to naive pilots "selling the PAC" as the answer. THere is no political solution, magic or otherwise. The hidden agenda won the day for NAI. NAI out lobbied US pilots by appealing to the hidden agenda of the current administration.
Originally Posted by baseball
We got out hustled by NAI who has less than a thousand pilots and who wrote zero letters or emails. It's like fighting a ghost. They aren't here, no picket signs, no presence, yet they won.
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