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Old 05-10-2011, 05:27 PM
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I didn't take these, they were scanned from 8x10 color glossies the Navy gave me for some long forgotten reason. 1979-80 as a student in lovely Kingsville, Texas, recently rediscovered in the archives while looking for something else in the stately bullet riddled jungle manor doublewide.





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I wish I could find stuff like that in my comfy double-wide. Nice A4 shots.
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The third photo probably sounds something like...."Pew Pew Pew Pew..."
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer View Post
The third photo probably sounds something like...."Pew Pew Pew Pew..."
Most military rocket motors go off with a very big bang. LAW, RPG, etc. Not a whoosh or Pew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpMvlRO9GBA

YouTube - 2.75 Inch Rockets

That 20mm cannon barrel you see in shot two can also be heard quite clearly in the cockpit.
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Most military rocket motors go off with a very big bang. LAW, RPG, etc. Not a whoosh or Pew.

YouTube - CRV7 Rockets

YouTube - 2.75 Inch Rockets

That 20mm cannon barrel you see in shot two can also be heard quite clearly in the cockpit.
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Nice shots---you in any of them?

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2.75-inch rockets are commonly called "Willy-Pete" for "White Phosphorous." So-called because phosphorous burns people in a very non-camera-friendly way; political caution was in vogue even during Vietnam.

Having shot probably 2-300 hundred of these things (from the OV-10; mostly at Superior Valley range in the Mojave Desert), I can tell you they actually do go "PPFFFeeeeewwwwwsssssshhhhh!!!"when you shoot. Sounds (and smells) like a glorified bottle-rocket (if you kids even know what bottle-rockets are). The rockets made a bright white smoke cloud about 100 ft in diameter and 200 ft tall. FACs used them to mark a target to guide the fighters to the bad guys, while avoiding bombing the good guys.

Having also played Ground-FAC at Leech Lake tactical bomb range (north side of Fort Irwin; same desert) I can tell you the WP warhead makes a muffled "pop" or "thump" when it blows up. (Admittedly, I was about 2 km away). Not nearly as impressive as the sound (or sight) of 500, 1000, or 2000 lb bombs, nor the 30mm of the A-10 (which makes two sounds; the sound of the bullets and their shock wave, and then you hear the sound of the gun-gasses escaping the barrel). When you've heard it, you'll never forget it---unless you're on the receiving end.

FYI: The gun Jungle is talking about is under the intake, on the belly; a single barrel. (I'm guessing one on each side). NOT the refueling probe!!
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Some are WP and some are HE, they always sounded like booms to me.

The cannon is in the wing root and the training command only gave you one, fleet A-4s carried two. My first A-4 gun pass was aborted because a 172 was flying directly across the bullseye, good planning on his part.

Being close to a bomb drop can make your pants legs flutter, not a bad thing, but you know you don't want to be closer.

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Nice shots Jungle. I was an instructor in VT-21 from 1983 - 1986. Lots of great memories.
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Not trying to one up anybody here, but I think we all like the super soaker on the A-10:

YouTube - A-10 Gatling Gun Test
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Everyone I ever knew just loved the Scooter. Wish I had flown it during my nav career, but alas, deregulation and massive hiring and airlines not hiring retired military in the late 70s happened. The siren song........ I'll do everyone a favor and not scan and post my T-28 formation shots from '75.
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