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Old 04-20-2012 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Boxer..
If that does happen, and the CAL MEC decides to go it alone, they will have my support.
I was against the ProShar deal, and have stated that often.

But for the UAL MEC to request release based on a timeline WITHOUT talking to the CAL MEC, when we are in JOINT Negotiations.. is unacceptable.

Again, had your guys had discussions with our guys last week and stated this was coming, I would have supported a Joint Message.
That did not happen.

And, after reading your MEC's News from last night where he mentions the "Unfriendly Skies" Campaign.. it's obvious that your side has been planning to go it alone at some point.

So be it.

Motch
Motch,

This is the EASILY predictable outcome of the actions of YOUR leadership. Pierce, et al sacrificed any notion of unity long ago in their quest for SLI advantages! Exactly how long did you expect the UAL pilots to tolerate that behavior?? I was VERY clear in my direction to my LEC reps after Pierce broke ranks with the Morse and negotiated a CAL specific monetary improvement to the CBA. I was also VERY clear in my communications with Lee Moak about the fallout from such behavior if he didn't do something about it. Well, now it appears that the chickens are coming home to roost, and there is no one to blame but your own leadership.

The UAL pilots, and the UAL MEC, have been open to joint communication, joint effort, and joint action since this merger began. The major impediment to all of those things was your MEC's (in the form of JP mostly) unashamed pursuit of potential advantage in the SLI!

So I support this action by my MEC because it accomplished multiple things. It will actually MOVE THE JCBA PROCESS AHEAD! Release or no release, you can bet your arse that this will generate movement. BTW, JH or the UAL MEC have NOT requested release...they put the company on notice that the WILL do it if they don't get serious in concrete ways (no more unfilled promises). Second, it FINALLY rips the power of the negotiations that JP and your MEC has been using to hold the UAL side hostage to SLI demands. You know very well that JB was serious when he addressed the UAL MEC - because that's exactly what's transpired since! You also know that JP was serious when he told my LEC FO rep that 'this is all about the SLI'! Third, this will put ALPA National and Lee Moak in a position to proactively and overtly SUPPORT us. At the very least, we'll get to see everyone's real stripes. Looking at the big picture, this move is not something that benefits UAL pilots over CAL pilots in any way! This move is good for ALL of us. The only thing that could be divisive is your MEC and JP failing to do the right thing.

I know this will cause hurt feelings and bruised egos, but as I tell people about internal ALPA politics -- I DON'T CARE about anyone's hurt feelings. What I care about is getting this profession and career back on track - and that starts with a JCBA.
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