Originally Posted by
PDTpilotXX
My friends at Piedmont will not sacrifice their career for yours. Sorry bro. They held the line while the rest of their peers undercut each other, lied to each other, voted in 16 year contracts and other things. If they vote in this TA they will still have a better contract than most of the regional industry...
Do you realize that AAG wanted to get rid of Envoy's turboprop rates in the last TA's? Our ATR's are long gone. Why do you think they would ask for that? How much of a raise would our turboprop rates be for PDT in a merge?
Envoy's CA turboprop rates are roughly equivalent for PDT's 37-44 seat jet TA rates. Envoy's EMB140/145 blended rates are roughly equivalent to PDT's 60-76 seat jet TA rates. If they vote this TA in, their contract will still be WORSE than Envoy's bankruptcy deal (in which we took more concessions that we should have, because the old MEC never forced the 1113 filing.)
...because nothing changes and they get a pure flow through.
Do you realize that Eagle spent a better part of the last 13 years in litigation and arbitration in an attempt to get AMR to comply with Letter 3/flow through agreements? The 100+ guys on property with AA numbers FINALLY went to American over 10 years after 9/11. The flow through has been nothing but an elusive carrot, and the only reason we are flowing 20 a month right now is due to one of Nicolau's arbitration decisions, and we even have a grievance pending on THAT because it should be 30/mo. If the rest of the regional industry hasn't learned from the mistakes of the Eagle/AA flow through, I don't know what to tell you. Pretty soon all the majors will be offering flow through at wholly owned regionals simply to keep them staffed. Giving up ANYTHING for the promise of flow is a folly, as the pilots of Eagle learned.