Emphatically yes and yes! We get it. You are a beaten down east pilot just trying to get the most you can in the last 5-10 years of your career. Your pilot group has had a miserable run since the late 80's. I think we understand how you have lost your will to fight. After your company almost liquidating several times over the last 25 years it's understandable. I was fortunate to fly with many pilots at NWA that had struck several times over their career to better things for not only their group, but the profession as a whole. What I learned from them is that the managements of then and now are no different then today. Get labor to work more for less, divide the group along strong vs the just happy to have a job types. This is NOT the late 70s early 80s when there were 100+ small airlines with the largest at about 4000 pilots and thousands of well qualified pilots on the streets. This is the end game of deregulation with 4 behemoths and a shortage of pilots brewing(due to the career losing it's allure). It's up to us to turn this career around. We are in the best negotiating environment of our lives. There are many, many things we all do everyday to keep these operations running smoothly, that if not done will create havoc in the system. You don't have to do anything illegal, just your job and no one else's.(IE: you are not required to extend beyond your duty day, but most of us will and this will come into play many times there is weather) It's tough to not go above and beyond because that's how most of us are programed. This generation of managers(not leaders) are like addicts hooked on our unwillingness to fight.