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Old 12-05-2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Well, just a refresh to update the situation.

Apparently Glassker (or Parkass, if you choose ) has softened his "wants" just a tad, so it would seem that the strategy of some that the best approach was for the lazy pilots to immediately roll over for a good belly rub would have left value on the table and has proven at least at this point to be wrong. The 2-hour RSV callout has been retracted and substituted with industry comparable language of "prompt". The agreement to a 5:10 minimum day upon PBS activation and a one year LOS bump for furloughees. It's minimal movement at this time, but it is movement. APA has been floating balloons to see how the membership feels with mixed reviews, mostly in the negative although apparently the majority at the ORD domicile meeting of 8-10% of its pilots was reported to have stood up and cheered.

The BOD remains split, but clearly both sides want an out. I expect a few additional minor sweeteners and then the BOD will get just enough to punt to the pilots. THAT is where the wildcard will exist. It's going to be a tough breakdown again, IMO. Many senior (and U East) will vote yes and virtually all the furloughees will vote no. Then, there are the two ends of the bell curve with the "Delta or bust" crowd on one side and the "can we just get through this without being hit" crowd on the other. The middle of the bell can go either way. Tough to tell the real percentages there. I predict that aside from a deal that's passed to the pilots, a fairly close vote with the deciding victor in the approximate 55% range. That is based on a final product only slightly sweetened from what's presently known to be on the table.

Of course, the APA is good at packaging marginal deals to their pilots, so perhaps the deciding factor will be their salesmanship ?
Read carefully... The 5:10 is not a daily minimum.

It is an average duty period. If you fly a three day red eye with two duty periods (we have tons of them) then you get 10:10 for a three day. If you fly a three day with three legs on the first day with a 32 hour sit in BUF, or SYR, or MEM, or EWR, etc. etc. with three legs on the last day, you get paid 10:10 for a three day (yes we have lots of them too, but they currently pay 14:45 because of duty rigs which seem to go away with the current proposal). We also have four days with a 32 hour sit and only three duty periods... yes welcome to 15:30 for a 4-day trip.

Right now we have many block holders working 21-24 days to get 80 hours. If we had 5:00 min calendar day every block holder would only work 16 calendar days to get 80 hours. With min average duty period, many block holders will work about a whole week longer every month.
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