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Old 02-17-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh

I'll grant you "free is relative". However since a type rating costs upwards of $7K (and as high as $35K), it's probably worth the travel expenses. Most military crewmembers will need to make the trip to a FSDO anyway to convert military competancy to FAA certificates. Why not knock out two birds with one stone?
I converted my military competancy to Commercial Instrument shortly after I completed Undergraduate Pilot Training, long before I gained the qualifications for the Type Ratings. Like I said, if you're at the FSDO anyway, knock it out. If you're not, it's probably not worth the hassle.



Originally Posted by FlyerJosh

FARs 61.63 (for commercial pilots) and 61.157(g) (for ATPs) covers the particular requirements that dictate whether or not a 15% ride in an actual aircraft is required. Level C and D simulators require 15% rides if certain experience requirments haven't been met. (There is a long list of requirements that can be met in both the regs)

I relooked over the reg, and since presumably Herc130AV8R, has a military designation to act as pilot in command any future type rides are probably exempt.

As for you, you were probably exempt due to flight time experience or some other reason.
61.157 is quite lengthy and detailed - - thanks for not posting it here.

I believe this is a relevant excerpt:
(g) Use of a flight simulator or flight training device for an airplane rating. If a flight simulator or flight training device is used for accomplishing all of the training and the required practical test for an airplane transport pilot certificate with an airplane category, class, and type rating, if applicable, the applicant, flight simulator, and flight training device are subject to the following requirements:

(3) All training and testing (except preflight inspection) must be accomplished by the applicant to receive an airplane class rating and type rating, if applicable, without limitations and--

(ii) The applicant must meet the aeronautical experience requirements of Sec. 61.159 of this part and at least one of the following--

(A) Hold a type rating for a turbojet airplane of the same class of airplane for which the type rating is sought, or have been designated by a military service as a pilot in command of an airplane of the same class of airplane for which the type rating is sought, if a turbojet type rating is sought;
(B) Hold a type rating for a turbopropeller airplane of the same class as the airplane for which the type rating is sought, or have been appointed by a military service as a pilot in command of an airplane of the same class of airplane for which the type rating is sought, if a turbopropeller airplane type rating is sought;
Wherever the type rating is mentioned, the "have been appointed by a military service as a pilot in command..." option exists as an alternative. The same appears to hold true for 61.63.

By the way, I couldn't find "15%" in either paragraph you cited.





Originally Posted by FlyerJosh

As a side note, it is probably worth getting the type rating if it's not a big trouble or hassle simply because if Herc130AV8R can't get a job flying for an airline right away, there are numerous overseas contract jobs flying or instructing in the C130 that are available to former servicemembers. (These are often flying/instructing for foreign allied nations that have purchased equipment from the US). Many of these contracts are quite lucrative financially, and often require type ratings and US certificates (as well as often requiring current qualifications).

~J
That's certainly worth considering.





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