Originally Posted by
djrogs03
Did you get a chance to listen to the ALPA conference call a week ago from yesterday? They said a majority (80%) of the credit that ADTG was applying that benefited our pairings was going to reserve pilots that weren't breaking guarantee, those were numbers the company would not give us, and the union had to figure out in its own...so only 20% of our scheduled pairings are benefiting the lineholders or reserve pilots actually breaking guarantee, that's not a lot, and if you want to talk about open time, open time only counts towards 4% of flying per ALPA. Those are the facts! Again your only talking about a very small piece of the pie...
The 20% number is only the number of credit obtained from the adtg that was above guarantee for the bid packet and reserve pilots going over 75. It does not reflect any open time trips that lineholders have taken throughout the month, which changes that 20% number significantly. It will also be low in the bid packet because it serves the company no purpose to build trips where we credit less than the adtg.
If you understand how statistics work, that 20% number is meaningless unless put in context. One month it could be 0% and the next 50%.
You also have no idea of the gain lineholders made throughout the month. To act like there are no gains is deceitful. We have plenty of pilots that routinely gain greatly through the application of the adtg with partial transactions and open time trips created throughout the month.
Originally Posted by
djrogs03
The company will not get rid of 30 hour layovers, they may reduce them and choose to do other things like DH us (not beneficial because it would count towards pay, credit and duty in some circumstances) and use us in other ways, but they will not get rid of them, we are restricted a lot when it comes to FDP with some of the places we fly only offering 1 or 2 flights a day (ie Montana). We had 30 hour layovers before ADTG came into play...what makes you think if we go back to the way it was we will shed them? The company has already showed there hand post 117 and prior to ADTG...
We are not restricted to most of the places we fly. There are plenty of DH options from most of the cities we do 30 hour layovers in. With the option to get 4:00 of pay/credit for calendar days
with no assigned duty, it becomes increasingly cheaper for the company to build trips with a DH to keep us from moving. Your seem to like to analyze things with blinders on.