Old 01-23-2015, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Skubajet View Post
I disagree. I personally feel that DP won't cave in to the pilots wants to prove that he won't cave to APA. Watch confessions of a union buster. Its about control...that what's important..not keeping pilots happy. If he gives us everything we want, we win and he is too smart for that to happen.

Everyone blames APA for not being united. That may be part if it but bottom line is our management is the elephant in the room. Delta wouldn't have the contract they have if it weren't for Anderson and his philosophy on happy employees = successful airline.

IMHO, its way to risky to chance losing the 1.7B.An extra 100k over 5 yeArs pays my kids college education or will be worth north of 500k after years in investments. Get the payrates now since its a sure thing and and slowly work at getting work rules back.
Once again look beyond the dollar amount. That pay raise is not realistic. The road shows are saying how they are unsure about the health insurance language alone. I have heard numbers as high as 10k deductibles and increased premiums with this proposal. The projected 23% pay raise is potentially only around 12%. The language is bad and even the negotiators do not know what is going to happen. That alone is a huge gamble. I don't see any guaranteed pay raise that can be pinned down with this jcba b/c of so many uncertainties. On the other hand with green book I know exactly the minimum increases of pay over it's life, potential higher increases and earlier section 6 negotiations.
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