Originally Posted by
RemoveB4flght
Takes a man to admit a mistake, especially when cloaked in the anonymity of the internet.
When it comes to conscious decisions on hiring:
If ever those pilots or management appointed to a hiring committee at a US airline have contention with or hold a grudge that I or other pilots who came to the Middle East during a period of time when it was those very companies that chose to put on the street experienced human capital, and then feel that those unemployed pilots through some obscure sense of patriotism should have chosen a different career path so as not to in any small degree affect their bottom line… well I suppose they'll just have to make their decision. You'll excuse me if I'm less than apologetic to such absurdity.
When it comes to ALPA:
If they want to include as part of their lobbying efforts against the ME3 to influence airlines to unilaterally exclude from hiring any pilots who previously or are currently working for one.. Well then you have no reason to "black list"me, as I have no desire to be part (again) of such an organization which would use the careers of former members as a bargaining chip or scare tactic when their expat employment played no role in subsidies, open skies, or any other detriment (perceived or otherwise) to their membership.
I would really love a complete explanation as to how fellow pilots are the enemy and why they deserve to be punished, excluded, banned, or black listed, but I'll tell you one thing…
If management can convince unions not to hire pilots who worked a competing airline, that's a very slippery slope.
Thanks for the rational reply. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves with speculation. I really have no idea as to what might unfold between the governments and airlines involved. I have no idea what hiring departments might or might not do in the future, and I'm not implying any sort of threat to a person who went to work overseas, as long as they weren't killing kittens in the process. No one is targeting you, and no one expects any pilot to refuse to fly for the ME3 out of a sense of patriotism, so there doesn't need to be an explanation as to where you "went wrong", because you didn't. The guys that are saying we should ban ME3 pilots are making knee-jerk statements.
There are however a couple of interesting questions in this thread, that are strictly rational:
1) Should the US legacies try to hire pilots away from the ME3?
2) Should the US legacies have policies to discourage additional going to the competition?
It's pretty rational for airlines to think about access to a limited supply of pilots, so I think both kinds of issues are on everyone's radar, the US carriers as well as the ME3. Hiring policies are not accidental, and from what I see, we hire ME3 pilots. I've never heard ALPA complaining about it, either.
I can't imagine anyone trying to "punish" any current ME3 pilots, because it would be self-defeating and stupid. But if you could encourage people to leave westbound, and simultaneously discourage others from going eastbound, maybe you would? I do mean "maybe", because I don't know what hiring departments think about, in this regard. If I was in charge of hiring, I'd consider facilitating the flow of pilots away from my competition, and wonder how to restrict the flow to the competition.
Does that make sense?