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Old 05-17-2015, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mpet View Post
Well, if you want a CFI job you can come up to the university of north dakota and pretty much be guaranteed one we're that short on instructors. If anything, I don't think there will be enough instructors here to meet the demand of the international training we do especially if we only look at internal hires. I saw an interview group of 150 instructors back in August of 2011, by August of 2012 when I was hired they took 24 of us out of about 45 or so. Now every single May/August/January they are hiring everybody who shows up. A lot of people are leaving before 1000 (Other 141 schools, 135 SIC mostly) and many are leaving right at... I stuck it out to 1380TT with about 1150 dual given. I saw the school's requirement of about 2 1/2 years of experience to teach initial CFI drop to about 1 year.

I think our school is something like 1/2 American students and 1/2 Contract students. Contract students on average fly twice as much as our American students. If your average instructor is leaving this school at 750 dual given (it's probably actually less than this) and contract students make up 2/3rds of their dual given time that would leave ~250 dual spent on American students... that's just enough to get a guy from 0 to CFI/CFII... but considering the fact that a lot of this instruction is spent on guys who are either a) Going to change their minds at some point on their career choice and switch out of the program b) Not actually interested in being a professional pilot (have no desire to acquire flight instructor certs) i.e ATC, UAS, management majors, getting a PPL for fun etc. or c) People who will become instructors but have no desire to instruct (find other time building jobs)

I doubt the model will sustain itself at least here with the regionals hiring EVERYBODY.
It's ironic that the original post was saying CFI programs can't sustain themselves due to a lack of students and you're saying they can't sustain themselves due to a lack of instructors!?

Importing trainees from abroad really stokes the fire in my opinion.
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