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Old 08-16-2015 | 07:29 PM
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airspeed1974
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
CS: Take this as constructive criticism meant in a friendly manner. I could not get more than 50 pages into your book before I had to put it down. I understand the message that you are trying to convey and I tend to agree with it. I speak Mandarin Chinese and have strong ties to the region, but I will not work for a Chinese carrier for many of the reasons you highlight. That said a lot of the impression I am getting from the book is that those of you who wrote it had never been outside of your home country before and are intolerant of other cultures. When I first went overseas to work for an Asian airline an older local check airman said to us, "just don't say anything for 6 months. Wait and see why we do what we do before you make any suggestions". That was really good advice to be honest. They did a lot of things that were outside of what we were used to in the USA, but it worked for them. Slowly over three years our group of Americans showed the locals alternative methods that were more the world norm and safer. They slowly started adopting those methods, especially the younger F.O.s. Change takes time and patience in other words. Your group comes across more like a certain Delta pilot fiasco at Korean. This pilot did not understand different cultures and throw in a bit of Delta arrogance and it just went downhill from there: The Delta Captain* affair another thread with discussion here While Korean did have a bad reputation at that point in time, anybody who has experience in Asia can see why this particular pilot was let go. You can't just go in to a foreign airline and expect they will be doing things the "American way" and complain when they don't. It takes a little bit of adaptation to fit in. Some people have a hard time with that and in some cases never can fit in. Years later my brother was teaching sim on a contract at the same airline I worked for in the Middle East. I was over at his hotel suite visiting when his wife walked in all flustered. She'd just had a run in with a new instructor from my brother's group. She started telling us what happened when something she said triggered me to ask, "his name isn't Delta Captain, is it?" To which she replied, "yes, how did you know?" Delta Captain never has fit in anywhere after leaving Delta. He is the proverbial "ugly American", he even angers other Americans!! So what's the moral of the story? Realistically it's that you don't seem to show any effort to adapt to the cultural differences and a lot of the initial stories seem to be full of vile and hatred of those differences. You probably lose a lot of readers with the number of swear words and put downs in regards to the Chinese as well. While that may not be your true feeling and intent, that is how it comes across to the reader. Typhoonpilot * There are plenty of former Delta pilots who have managed to adapt to working overseas and are doing quite well. Just did not want to use the individuals real name.
TP, I just finished reading the thread from PPrune that you linked. This sounds EXACTLY like my experience in Japan to a tee! I so played the Mr. Humble pie attitude, studied until I could wear that plane and did every single thing they did. I followed the constant ridiculous call outs, etc.

We have I would gather to say around 10 Koreans at SZA. They ALL say the same thing about working for an airline in Korea. It sucks and had a military mafia running it. Now having Koreans leave clean Korea to come to dirty China has got to tell us something!
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