Originally Posted by
Aviatrx
If I remember correctly, the 1113 was proposed to the pilot group during bankruptcy, not outside of 1113. Your facts are slightly off. Carry-on!
Nope, I was dead on. Had many a discussion about this here and on EL at the time. As I said, there was no Envoy 1113, only the threat of it. ALPA blew smoke up the collective fanny's of the pilot group convincing them jt was better to take concessions outside of it (the submission of it to Judge Lane). ALPA took the worse instead of the bad as arguably, AMR wouldn't have likely gotten much with the 1113 process because A. Envoy pilots contract was competitive, if not industry trailing and B. Envoy was in and of itself profitable. ALPA just didn't want to expend money and Moak subsequently proved to Envoy pilots what ALPA was about concerning where they stood in ALPA's view with that infamous letter to you. It said in a nutshell, PLAY BALL !
The MEC toed nationals line and will again in a bad and worse scenario.