Originally Posted by
lakehouse
Yet I have friends who came over from mesa who are happy to be at a much better place. You know the mesa who told cdo pilots to sleep in the plane.
I would classify the difference between Envoy and Mesa like this. You are behind enemy lines and have been captured. You are going to get tortured and get to pick between being water boarded or having your fingernails pulled out with pliers.
They both suck and realistically you would never choose either one.