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Old 02-14-2017, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
Weve got memos about this somewhere. The company (edv) position is not to sharpshoot the stupid DOT rule, because faa is like honeybadger and it don't give a f. Once the jetbridge door up top is closed the pax are effectively sealed off, but there's no way to measure that time so we use door time. If at any time the pax cannot get off the plane, even if the door is open, you are holding them and it'll go against the DOT time when the pax complain to a judge.

NY was ground zero for the Jetblue Valentine's Day mascre, don't go begging for a FAA beatdown. Normally I'd say "sorry" and shrug but I'm not even sorry. Don't try to or, be talked into a technicality that won't hold up in court, you arent the first airline to try that crap. I know we are all special little snowflakes that are superpilots and part time lawyers, but you're gonna get a beat down and no one cares that "ops made me do it" sniffle. That $8 an hour guy will keep his job and do it to another crew.
Just did a recurgent LMS on the subject. It clearly states that if still hooked up to jetbridge with pax on board the clock starts at scheduled departure time. They would still need an opportunity to de plane before the 3 hrs is up. I think NY ops sees it differently. Or they just don't want to keep moving the jetbridge. But I too would rather have the pax in the terminal waiting than on the plane.
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