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Old 02-17-2017, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Davetastic
...guys on this forum seem to exaggerate to such an extent to make it seem that we do a job SOOOOOOOOO much different...
Originally Posted by rmr1992 View Post
You're kidding right? Do you actually work here? How many different variants of a 747 or a 767 do they fly at other carriers? How often do they swap, daily, between passenger and cargo ops and between day and night ops while transiting the globe under a crappy contract with shoddy work rules/minimal contractual protections and declining experience levels? How often does a pilot at legacy carrier fly a 747-8, a 747-400, a BCF and an LCF in one pattern? How often do they get min rest while doing this? How often do they circle the globe in less than a week? How often do they circle the globe twice in a month? How often do they sit the 3 kinds of reserve that we do and get paid below industry standard for it or not paid at all (R-1)? How often do the legacy guys have to play travel agent for themselves because the responsible party didn't set up air or ground trans and couldn't bother to make sure the hotel was squared away after an 18-20 hour day? How often does a legacy guy have to fight to enforce a shoddy CBA against an entity that pushes its boundaries at every opportunity? Your right, it's basically the same job... (insert sarcastic tone here) why should we get paid more? Heck we should thankful for what we have... maybe we should even seek to work for less because our job is actually easier... it's not like we carry people or anything...
Damn, dude. It's like you're trying to prove Dave's point. How many times in the last 12 months have you circled the globe twice in one month? More importantly, who cares? I've been here two years and I've done it exactly zero times. You want more pay, more respect, better work rules? Great, so do I. But don't act like you're god's gift to aviation because you put the right autopilot to command and let the airplane take you around the world. 744, 748, BCF, LCF, don't care. They are all basically the same. We even get a little book to tell us what the differences are. Big *******ing deal.

Look, we have a tough job and we get paid garbage compared to our peers, but lets not go off the reservation trying to make people feel sorry for us. It only serves to undermine our position. Our argument for parity is strong enough without having to resort to gross exaggerations of our prowess in the cockpit. Besides, the people who need convincing aren't listening anyway.
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