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Old 09-25-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
You work for NWA, right? Just how powerful do you expect your union to be when it is subject to your company's bankruptcy proceedings? What specifically did you expect from them then and what do you expect from them now? Do you honestly think any other union could have served you better under those circumstances?

True, all ALPA pilots shave suffered massive career degradation...but have all concessionary agreements not been ratified by a majority of the pilots that actually make up ALPA? Is it fair to lay blame solely upon the leadership instead of the pilots that approved those concessionary agreements?

I understand that ALPA is made up of PILOTS, many of whom have unrealistic expectations about collective bargaining and won't take ownership of their own situation. These are often the same who unfairly blame others when they should be shining the spotlight brightly upon themselves and their own pilot group.

No need for biting sarcasm...but if it makes you feel better, by all means go ahead.
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I'm disappointed in ALPA National leadership because they didn't do anything to protect the career progression of younger pilots regarding this change. I shouldn't be surprised, however, that their proposal provided a windfall to older pilots who not only will get another 5 years at the top of their earning potential but benefited from advancement of seniority due to Age 60 retirements for their entire career.

A better solution would have been to require the PIC of all 121 operations to be under the age of 60. Older pilots who wanted or needed to work would get another 5 years, likely at the top of FO pay and seniority, while not impinging on the career progression of younger pilots below them. "

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So Boiler, you want it both ways, you want the old out if their Airline was having financial trouble, if their company is doing well, you want them out at 60. That sir, makes you a hypocrite and poster boy with what is wrong with this world today.

You are a selfish, spoiled brat. Your lineage should be ended for the benefit of society.

In your native lingo this means, Your Mama!
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