Old 06-10-2017 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Boy this is a tough one.

How much would UBI be? Who gets to decide that? What if UBI recipients spend all their free time reproducing such that they overwhelm the available resources? Hopefully some tech genius can build a star-drive...

Who decides how much the actual workforce participants get paid relative to UBI? The workers themselves?

The fundamental problems with UBI is (like all socialism) it assumes that everybody has an inherent right to the spoils of "society".

But society is actually a buzzword that represents actual people, who have their own desires and beliefs, and are harder to herd than cats...unless they are enslaved of course.

With a system like that you need either tyranny to keep it running, or it will typically collapse under it's own weight.

And guess what? UBI would probably not solve society's problems. Given UBI as entitlement people would likely not appreciate it. They would find reasons to be unhappy...religion, the fact that the workers have nicer houses, etc, etc. You what they say about the devil and idle hands.

I don't see it working without a strong hand at the helm. Anybody want to run for Emperor?
All good questions. I would also ask yourself if the alternative is better or worse than your view of socialism (BTW, socialism is not a fine line (you seemed to suggest that it is))

No UBI when there are no jobs and the top only benefits? Just be ready for torches and guillotines. If I were living in that age, i would be with the rebellion.
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